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jeepster1961

14/3/2013 at 10:15am
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hi, been looking around for a towcar to tow our 2 berth caravan, the caravan club matching service says the car i am looking at is a perfect match for our pastiche 460.

the car is a saab 9-5 tourer its the 150bhp model on an a 57 reg.

Has anyone any experience of owning a saab, reliability etc.

i do my own servicing, thanks

Grampian91

14/3/2013 at 1:01pm
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Some parts are hard to source now. Take the "its a vectra underneath" with a pinch of salt.

Lots of differences.

Your going to be towing around 96% though.

Are you happy with that?

Personally for me the caravans too heavy. Its legal though and if your happy then go ahead.

Do watch the spares situation. Not so bad if you do your own work, And can source 2nd hand parts and fit them yourself if needed.

Cars kerbweight 1500kg, Vans 1435kg. Those are the figures i used.

Greendemon315

14/3/2013 at 1:21pm
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I just wondered what matching service said it was perfect.

Jim

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The OP said he had used the CC service. LINK

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jeepster1961

14/3/2013 at 3:44pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Grampian91 on 14/3/2013
Some parts are hard to source now. Take the "its a vectra underneath" with a pinch of salt.

Lots of differences.

Your going to be towing around 96% though.

Are you happy with that?

Personally for me the caravans too heavy. Its legal though and if your happy then go ahead.

Do watch the spares situation. Not so bad if you do your own work, And can source 2nd hand parts and fit them yourself if needed.

Cars kerbweight 1500kg, Vans 1435kg. Those are the figures i used.

hi what matching service did you use?

jeepster1961

14/3/2013 at 3:46pm
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if you look in your cars v5 it will show the mass in service, do you have a saab 9-5 estate?

Saab 9-5 1.9TiD Linear Sport (2007)
Make     Saab
Range     1.9TiD Linear Sport
Model     9-5
Year     2007
Fuel type     Diesel
Transmission type     Manual
Body type     Estate
Kerb weight     1675.00kg
Towing limit     1800.00kg
Gross vehicle weight     2150.00kg
Nose weight     75.00kg
BHP     150
RPM for maximum BHP     4000.00
Maximum torque     320.00
RPM for maximum torque     2000.00

bessie500

14/3/2013 at 3:48pm
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Saab 9-5 1.9TiDVector Sport Anniversary (2007)

Make	Saab
Range	1.9TiDVector Sport Anniversary
Model	9-5
Year	2007
Fuel type	Diesel
Transmission type	Manual
Body type	Estate
Kerb weight	1710.00kg
Towing limit	1800.00kg
Gross vehicle weight	2160.00kg
Gross train weight	0.00kg
Nose weight	75.00kg
BHP	150
RPM for maximum BHP	4000.00
Maximum torque	320.00
RPM for maximum torque	2000.00

More info

Coachman Pastiche 460/2 (2007)

Make	Coachman
Range	Pastiche
Model	460/2
Year	2007
Type	Caravan
Berths	2
Number of axles	1
MTPLM	1420kg
MIRO	1260kg
User payload	160kg
Hitch limit	0
Shipping length	6.63m
Overall width	2.24m
Overall height	2.71m

The Club advises that a Saab 9-5 1.9TiDVector Sport Anniversary (2007) is o.k. to tow a Coachman Pastiche 460/2 (2007)

1 Kerbweight ratio: 83%
The caravan's laden weight is within 85% of the car's kerb weight, and therefore meets Club guidelines.

The above is based on car and van being same age all the saab models come in at the right weight and all the 460 pastiche caravan are within the guidlines, the older the van the lighter.

Bessie

jeepster1961

14/3/2013 at 3:56pm
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hi, grampian personally i wouldnt tow at the figures you have quoted,

I have towed at 90% of the max weight, however we dont load the van to the max weight,

Best to weigh your essential equipment, and then weigh your personal stuff.

The essential equipment wont change too much on each trip but personal stuff clothes etc may change. So we weigh what we take

Dont take stuff with you that you dont need and keep the weight down.
Apart from the stella ( only joking)

Grampian91

14/3/2013 at 7:09pm
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My towing match is only around 72%

Kerbweight 1564kg caravan 1150kg.

No issues here...

664DaveS

14/3/2013 at 7:12pm
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I have towed with several Saabs, the older models (900,9000) which were good.(Especially turbos!)

We have an 07 Saab 93 Tid convertible, which we have had for 3 years. It has been reliable and is economical (36-42 mpg). It is pretty pokey too

We use a local independent (used to be Saab dealer till GM took over) who assure me that parts are not a problem.

Saab Parts is a separate company and actually have access to the tooling for older models.

We don't tow with ours but have seen them towing. With 150bhp and plenty of torque, they should be good.

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philz55

14/3/2013 at 8:15pm
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My experience with a 06 9-3 vector sport was not so good. Lots of info on the net re engine problems ie: egr valves, swirl flaps, DPF filters and sticking throttle bodies all expensive to fix. Saab were fixing broken springs Foc due to having so many complaints but as Saab went bust there will be no help there now. The 1.9 GM engine is fitted to Vauxhall, Fiat and Alfa Romeo. I actually loved the car but after the repair cost for a new DPF I was sort of glad it was wrote off when I got rear ended. The Airflow model has no DPF and I would say look for that model.

phathamster

14/3/2013 at 10:23pm
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dodgy turbos, much like most of the modern psa engines steer clear imo

littlebasher

15/3/2013 at 1:06pm
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I towed with a late 9-3 Cab and had no issues with it. It's heavier than the other models and makes a pretty good tow car.

Mine had the 150bhp diesel and i never had a single issue with it. The only reason you'll read lots of horror stories on the net is because a) There's lot of those engines in circulation and b) People only post on the internet to complain rather than praise. I bet as a %, the actual number of failures was v small and comparable to every other manufacturer.

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