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Subject Topic: New Octavia 1600 KG for towing
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Personsnowy747
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85% is not law, it is a recommendation, but a recommendation based on research done to ascertain stability at different weight ratios. Was it Bristol Uni? Can't remember now.

I would not tow above kerbweight let alone several hundred kilos above it.

Ali


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Quote: Originally posted by snowy747 on 15/5/2013
Quote: Originally posted by LlaniDavis on 14/5/2013
1292kg is the UNLADEN weight, not the Kerb weight!!

The outgoing range all have kerbweights around 1250 - 1350kg so Audicab is right from what I can see. Take the quoted unladen weights, add driver and fuel and the kerbweights are still nowhere near 1500 or 1600 kg.

Ali



I believe the current Skoda official 'kerbweights' are quoted without fuel and driver (so actually they are unladen weights, not kerbweights). My Octavia II has a real kerbweight of approx. 1530kg - I know because I took it to a weighbridge. It looks like the Octavia III is somewhat lighter.

Don't want to get into any arguments, but just thought this might help clear up some of the confusion.


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Yes so Audicab is right, he said take the unladen weights and add driver and fuel. They are not heavy cars whichever way you look at it. Based on Golfs weren't they, not Passats as was often thought?

Ali


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Btw surely it is time an industry standard was set for kerbweights so that every purchaser knows what is what without having to research who includes what in their figures!

Ali


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All maufacturers are tending to make their new models lighter to save fuel & lower emissions. The max tow weight is just a technical figure based on car's ability tow up a gradient. The more powerful models often quote higher tow weights.

What is safe to tow within these weights is for the driver, not the manufacturer to decide. All the maker does is set the max parameters, ie tow weight & towbar download weight based on strength of rear suspension & chassis. Then you look at the laws of physics. If you think a 1600kg caravan is ok to tow with a 1500kg car with a noseweight of only 75kg then go ahead & tow it.

Typical car salesman you are Bob, you don't even know anything about the cars you are selling. Try looking on Skoda website, its 1,272kg kerbweight & 1800kg max tow for 2litre. You can flog your customers a twin axle caravan as well.


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I dont know why your all giving him the time of day, He knows the 85% rule he's been told countless times thats why he has a light weight caravan.

skodabob's just a wind up merchant who chucks the odd curve ball to get everyone going  

Bessie


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Indeed, its a wind up....


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Just to put my 2 pennorth in. I consider myself a reasonably experienced person when it comes to towing. Our current car is a Saab 1.9 Tid Sportwagon auto. Power is 150 bhp. Manufacturer's recommended towing limit is 1600kg. (our previous car, same except it was manual, had a limit of 1800kg - presumably the difference is to avoid problems with the auto {sludge-box] transmission) 85% of the car's weight is 1360kg. Our soon to be collected replacement caravan is an Avocet of 1350 MTPLM - nicely within the 85%. The outgoing unit was a Swift Classic Coronette of 1100 MTPLM. The Saab handled it nicely; we have done one trip this year with the auto and it was very good. I find the Saab very well planted towing and although the newer 'van will be heavier I do not expect any problems. However, I fully agree that the manufacturers' recommendations for towing depict what the car is CAPABLE of PULLING, not necessarily safely. A box behind a car with the aerodynamics approaching that of a brick and therefore subject to side wind gusts from the weather and white van man needs to be pulled by something with a bit of substance and weight advantage.
Cheers All
Pete


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Quote: Originally posted by snowy747 on 15/5/2013
Quote: Originally posted by LlaniDavis on 14/5/20131292kg is the UNLADEN weight, not the Kerb weight!!


The outgoing range all have kerbweights around 1250 - 1350kg so Audicab is right from what I can see. Take the quoted unladen weights, add driver and fuel and the kerbweights are still nowhere near 1500 or 1600 kg.

My octavia scout 2.0cr diesel weighs in at 1725 kgs, driver and half tank of fuel



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