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14/5/2013 at 3:19pm
Location: West Yorkshire Outfit: Sterling Eccles Sport & S-Max
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Ok. I'm starting to feel that I perhaps have looked at too many options and completely confused myself, and perhaps I need to stop looking for perfection for my under £8k budget!
I had pretty much decided on the Santa Fe - it would tow practically any caravan we choose next, looks good, is comfortable, there's plenty available at a reasonable price ... but then I convinced myself that the road tax was too high, the non-towing mpg wasn't particularly wonderful and the service costs were too high. And, most importantly, do I really want such a darned big car on a day to day basis?
From squinting at our dealer's website, I figure most of the caravans we're likely to look at weigh up to 1350kg. So if I add 200kg-ish on for our payload, I only really need to tow 1600kg max (yes, I know the maths is a bit adrift there ). I still want to retain the higher driving position of an MPV but most of the smaller ones either seem to struggle to make an 85% match on kerbweight or have very low noseweights.
Should I stick with buying a Santa Fe and just stop stressing that I'm making the wrong decision; reconsider my caravan figures and reconcile myself to fishing from a smaller pool of caravans when we change later this year; or scout round again to find an alternative car (though I think I'm running out of ideas of ones I can afford that are smaller than a Santa Fe).
And in general, is it much better (as would seem logical) in terms of fuel economy to have a bigger car if it improves my kerbweight % match (for example from 85% to 73%)?
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14/5/2013 at 3:49pm
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Have you had a test drive of the Santa Fe yet? When you say it is a big car, how much difference is it to the other MPV type vehicles you have looked at, you may be surprised at it. The width and height maybe bigger but you may find there is not much difference in the length. One of my work colleagues teased me about the size of the Range Rover I have until we compared their Jaguar X Type against it ..... there is only an inch and a half difference in the length, it was the height and width that made it look a lot bigger. How much towing would it be doing compared to solo driving and how much happier would you be with the caravan you want to have rather than a one you are restricted to by another towing vehicle. In the end it comes down to personal choice and, I am afraid, only yourself can answer that one.
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16/5/2013 at 11:50am
Location: Surrey Outfit: Bailey Valencia + Lexus RX400h
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Why is the road tax too high? £260 or something for mine ('09 automatic)...
The SF is a good car but you're right about the economy solo - depending on where you drive (motorway or town), you're going to get high 30s at best. We do almost exclusively short town journeys (kids school runs) and average 26mpg solo and 23 mpg towing a 1600 kg caravan, so not great (actually, the towing MPG is pretty reasonable).
But you have to factor in this is a 2-ton car with 4WD - that isn't a formula for fuel economy.
Personally, I am very wary of those who suggest they get 40+mpg from any large car - mine peak's at 40mpg when doing 60 on the motorway (instant mpg readout in the dash), so to average more than that when doing the normal stop/start traffic, no matter how 'well' you drive, is unlikely IMO. And modern cars engines are all very similar designs (with possible exception of BMW), so I just can't believe some of the claims of others.
I have had a similar dilemma to you and decided to stick with the SF. You could go for an estate/saloon (lighter, no 4WD) and get better economy solo but you lose the driving position and are restricted with caravans, as you already know.
The non-4WD MPVs (Ford Galaxy etc) will get better economy as well, but not enough, IMO, to offset the image/reliability/quality issues they have.
I'm not helping, am I?
------------- 'In later life, you will be more disappointed with the things you didn't do than with the things you did.' - Mark Twain
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