New to caravanning (potentially) but not new to towing. Just wondered if anyone out there has any experience of towing a van with the new (13 plate) Focus? Ours is the 1600 diesel estate. On paper it's man enough for the job but I'm old fashioned where engine size is concerned and I'm a bit worried the 1600 is going to be underpowered. Looking at lightweight vans, an ABI Marauder is currently top of the list - a '95 5.0CT with an unladen weight of 925Kg.
hi cumbrian I have seat leon 1600 tdi and pulls my elddis ok but only the 2 of us new dervs are very good my seat is 105 bhp which in old dervs would of being a 2litre
Car is the 115ps non econetic model with a kerb weight 1368, max tow 1200kg and the licence is no problem so in theory it all works. As is always the case I've read conflicting reviews on towing a van with a MkIII focus, some saying it's great, others complaining about poor performance and clutch problems.
I think you've possibly whacked the nail on the head with your question about the eco models - what these reviews never tell you is what output their engine has.I've already read that Ford say the econetic models are not suitable for towing.
The new Ford Focus is actually the MK IV (mark 4) but I have towed with both the MK II (2.0 ltr. diesel) and the MK III (1.6 ltr. diesel) both being estate versions. There is quite a difference in kerbweight of the estate compared to the saloon plus the estate has disc brakes both front and rear whereas the saloon has only has discs on the front and drums on the rear but you haven't said which of the two you have. Also I would check with your Ford Dealer regarding the maximum towing weight as in the MK III brochure, Ford actually got the figures incorrect which 1200 kgs. should have actually been 1300 kgs. as there are two versions of the 1.6 ltr. Focus, one with a higher BHP than the other that's how I picked that up and questioned it. The dealer had an e-mail from Ford clarifying that the figures were actually the wrong way round and the higher BHP should have been 1300 kgs. and not 1200 kgs. as stated in the brochure. They may well have got it wrong again.
Quote: Originally posted by Grampian91 on 05/6/2013
Possibly a bit lacking for my tastes, I would get a remap for an extra 20 - 30bhp. But thats probably just me.
I'm sure you would & void the warranty on a brand new car..145bhp from a 1.6diesel? that wouldn't last too long.....but I digress, the reason that caravanners tow down the motorway at 75mph without even noticing it is because modern cars have to much power, not too little. Yes the car will tow the caravan with power to spare...
we have just changed our 1.8tdi focus saloon for a kuga 2LT 4 (awd) as we found it struggled on soft ground due to our weather but for general towing of our coachman no problems but be aware when trying to reverse on to pitch the clutch may give off a burning smell.....
Worth pointing out to the power crazed, When towing uphill one should take it gently keeping the engine revving freely in low gear. Any sort of 'enthusiastic' uphill towing or driving on the flat will tend to shorten the life of the dual mass flywheel as cars are not actually engineered for towing even though they can.
If you have to pay your own repair bills then it is best to avoid using anywhere near all the power available when you tow.
Its not about using all the power to get to the top 1st.
Its the difference between getting 31mpg before the remap and 39mpg after the remap.
I know howto look after the DMF and rarely use 6th gear when towing because i get better fuel consumption in 5th and the drop in revs is only about 500rpm.
Extra 500rpm = less DMF wear and better fuel consumption.
If i wanted to trash the clutch and DMF then im sure a full throttle standing start with a caravan will be almost as quick as a standard car.
But i dont fancy splashing out £800 to prove that.
My cars only got 160,000 miles on it and its not trashed yet.