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Quote: Originally posted by wilf54 on 08/10/2013

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Just had a look online. The b+e test is £115 during normal working hours and £141 during evenings and weekends.

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Thats just the DSA test fee but including the training it is more likely to total between £500 and £700

The safety questions, reversing and uncoupling can be self taught to DSA BE test standard by looking for videos on youtube etc but the way the DSA want you to drive on the road is usually only possible by using an instructor

Also the vehicle and trailer used for the test must conform to specific DSA test standards

The safety questions, reversing and uncoupling can be self taught to DSA BE test standard by looking for videos on youtube etc but the way the DSA want you to drive on the road is usually only possible by using an instructor

Also the vehicle and trailer used for the test must conform to specific DSA test standards

Wow those cost are just crazy, i'd go back to plan a and down rate your caravan

Bessie 

Quote: Originally posted by iank01 on 08/10/2013

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If it is an ALKO chassis, it will probably have the maximum weight on it. The MTPLM is not a legal requirement and does not conform to statutory requirements so you cannot be prosecuted on it. The MTPLM plate is not required on a caravan or trailer.
If stopped by VOSA or the police, they will check the load index on the tyres and this should be higher than the MTPLM of the caravan, i.e. if MTPLM is 1400kg then on a single axle load rating should be at least 700kg on each tyre.
They may then look for the plate or sticker on the chassis, but will definitely check the train weight.
If over the stipulated weights, two offences have been committed, one exceeding train weight of towing vehicle and secondly invalid driving licence.
Chances of it happening are almost zero but still not worth taking the chance as it means you need to weigh the outfit before each holiday or break.

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If anyone believes that above then you are taking on hell of a big risk and will need a damn good traffic barrister in crown court !

The authorities WILL take the MTPLM or plated MAM that has been put on it by the manufacturer as the MAM for that trailer

If there is no plate THEN the total of the tyre load ratings will be used and that WILL be higher than any plated MAM

If the quote above was correct then loads would be getting done for exceeding the B licence towing laws

Quote: Originally posted by wilf54 on 08/10/2013

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If we need to spend £1000 - 1400 for the two of us to do the b+e test then this will need to come off the budget for the caravan! Want to try and avoid this!

Iank0 -are you sure about the weight stamped on the chasis always being used?
We would be well within the max towing weight of the car nd well within the gross train weight of the cqcar sed on the mtplm, but not sure about the if we used the weight marked on the chasis as I have no idea what it is.

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Quote: Originally posted by ROG. on 08/10/2013

Quote: Originally posted by iank01 on 08/10/2013If it is an ALKO chassis, it will probably have the maximum weight on it. The MTPLM is not a legal requirement and does not conform to statutory requirements so you cannot be prosecuted on it. The MTPLM plate is not required on a caravan or trailer.If stopped by VOSA or the police, they will check the load index on the tyres and this should be higher than the MTPLM of the caravan, i.e. if MTPLM is 1400kg then on a single axle load rating should be at least 700kg on each tyre.

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They may then look for the plate or sticker on the chassis, but will definitely check the train weight.
If over the stipulated weights, two offences have been committed, one exceeding train weight of towing vehicle and secondly invalid driving licence.
Chances of it happening are almost zero but still not worth taking the chance as it means you need to weigh the outfit before each holiday or break.

If anyone believes that above then you are taking on hell of a big risk and will need a damn good traffic barrister in crown court !

The authorities WILL take the MTPLM or plated MAM that has been put on it by the manufacturer as the MAM for that trailer

 

If there is no plate THEN the total of the tyre load ratings will be used and that WILL be higher than any plated MAM

 

If the quote above was correct then loads would be getting done for exceeding the B licence towing laws

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Quote: Originally posted by wilf54 on 12/10/2013

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The manufacturer has now confined they will not reduce the plated MTPLM. Looks like a change of car will be the cheapest option...

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Quote: Originally posted by neil and lena on 12/10/2013

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Quote: Originally posted by wilf54 on 12/10/2013The manufacturer has now confined they will not reduce the plated MTPLM. Looks like a change of car will be the cheapest option...

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And then what ? You'll be running with a lighter car and heavier caravan which will mean a poorly matched combination leaving yourself open to possible stability issues especially if your towing at or close to 100%.
Sorry but the the safer option is to sit the B+E and get the entitlement

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