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25/1/2014 at 11:51pm
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Anybody own one? Good, bad, ugly? Looking at getting one around 06/57 depending on the mileage. A bit of Internet research suggests the handbrakes can be a bit of a problem and the suspension compressors can fail.Internet 4x4 forum opinion is a bad one is a bad one and a good one fantastic.I've spoken to a local 4x4 specialist who says the hand brake is mainly poor maintenance and recommended an Auto based on the heavy towing I do as he felt 1st gear was a bit high and would stress the clutch pulling off which is an expensive repair unless I used low box a lot. I'm not keen on Auto boxes and was wondering what others experiences were.
Actual living with the vehicle advice preferred as opposed to what a bloke in the pub told you or somebody you knew stories.


26/1/2014 at 8:28am
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I had one of the first built which we changed in 2006 and have kept and intend to keep. First of the Euro4 compliant engine vehicles, pulling our 1900kg caravan
I used demonstrators to do back to back manual vs auto towing test over a 60 mile route, one vehicle used then directly the other. Strangely for a dyed in the wool manual man having 110s since 1988 the auto won hands down. What a lucky outcome that proved as the early clutches had a history of failures and later the manual box was also pulled from the market. The initial handbook hinted strongly the manual was delicate by advising the use of low ratio for initiating towing get away. I have to say the autoboxes on both mine have proved superb, I am an unhestitating convert to this brilliant ZF unit.
I have had zero issues with the electronic brake, but I "use" it and I don't do greenlaning. My local indepenent is a firm believer in the frequent use of it as the single most important aspect, one too many auto drivers fail to do.
The vehicles have not been trouble free, the first was effectively brought back by dealer/LR because of defective sub frame painting; the second was dealer "Dinitrol" treated with a totally different result.
Both EGR valves were replaced just out of warranty with a significant "good will" contribution. The second vehicles Turbo failed and was replaced under warranty but was short lived. This was replaced with a non LR unit direct from Garrett, which fingers crossed has been by far the better unit and quite a lot cheaper. Both failure were variable vane issues the latter being acredited to its stepper motor failure; the Garrett unit reportedly has the latest stepper motor. First set of Zero tyres changed at 36K, for another set. New Discs at front and pads all round in 2013.
Apart from that the vehicles have been excellent and if I felt I needed to change I would buy a post 2014 Disco 4 to be the right side of the road tax break. But as this is so good I see no point in spending another £40k to upgrade at my age.

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26/1/2014 at 8:00pm
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They get lots of bad press about reliability and repair costs are supposed to be the wrong side of cheap too. Check out owner reviews on www.honestjohn.co.uk or whatcar or autotrader. All give the same sort of story. LR are cool and well designed but Japanese / Korean cars seem to be much cheaper and more reliable. BTW, no points for guessing I choose to drive a Kia Sorento. (touching wood) Never had a problem in 40k+ travelled and many towing miles including a bit of 'off-road' action!! Not as cool or desirable as a LR car but never seems to break down lol.

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27/1/2014 at 12:09am
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Thanks JTQU. It looks like your man and own experience of the handbrake is the same as what my man says.
I do use my current TD5 for some serious heavy, off road towing, the caravan at 1800kgs is a nice break for it. I know the manual Disco 3 can cope well towing off road as I have seen one in action fetching toilet units off a wet site. While the auto might be nice cruising along I don't know how it would compare in an extreme situation, vehicles with auto boxes I have seen spin on a wet leaf trying to get going, but they haven't been Discoveries.


27/1/2014 at 5:47pm
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I'm not sure whether I have owned a D3 long enough or racked up enough miles to qualify an answer for you - but here goes.

We have an '06 HSE auto with 62k on the clock. We bought it last summer with 56k.

We tow a twin-axle 1750kgs caravan and our first trip last year (a week after collecting the car and one day after having the towbar fitted) was a 320 mile haul down to Cornwall. The car is fully laden with three adults, one teenager, two Labradors + kit.

I can't describe the sheer ease with which it pulled the 'van. I hate cliche's, but 'You don't know that the 'van's on the back' does, I'm afraid, spring to mind! At one stage on our return journey, I said to Mrs 'D' 'Look at this - how easy it's pulling' as we overtook a 'heavie'. (Not a situation we had often found ourself in previously when towing with our old Defender). She looked up from her book and said something like 'and'! I replied 'and! we're on a hill and we're still accelerating'! 'Are we she said'? 'On a hill'? 'It doesn't feel like it'! It was a long, fairly steep hill too.

Touch wood, no problems yet. Electronic handbrake ok. Only issue has been the front and rear windscreen have been replaced. The rear, because by some fluke, the strimmer caught a stone when tidying up the garden after our trip and smashed the rear screen and the front screen because a small amount of rainwater ingressed and the dealer identified a windscreen problem. When they took the old 'screen off, they found that this too had been a replacement and had been stuck back in using the bare minimum of adhesive, in blobs rather than a permanent seal.

We selected a vehicle that had full service history and unless something drastic occurs, have resigned ourself to the fact that although parts/servicing may be higher than on other vehicles, the sheer pleasure we derive from using it for towing is a trade-off that we were prepared to accept.

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27/1/2014 at 9:13pm
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D3/D4 are great vehicles, not just for towing, and the problems with mud in the handbrake and the brake seizing on is well documented in the Land Rover magazines. Suspension bushes seem to be a regular job at 60k miles but not a bad job for the DIY person.

The rear belt for the fuel injection pump is a sod to get to but is a DIY job if you have the guidance of an article, plenty on the net.

We have a D2 V8, and we were looking at upgrading, but I find that a lot of the major assemblies are swap-out only, no parts are listed, so if the transfer box goes pop you are into a new box, unlike the D1 and D2 which you can get almost every nut and bolt for still.

That's the only real worry I'd have, but if you go to a dealer for your work then just enjoy the motor and pay the bills.

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30/1/2014 at 1:59am
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Thanks for your replies. I've no issues with the Disco 3's towing ability, I'm just a bit nervous about the repair bills if something does go wrong. I changed from a 300tdi to a TD5 and soon found out the parts practically doubled in price, market forces applying there, sting you on the latest model! I'm not afraid to get a bit of oil under my nails but there are some jobs I neither have the tools or time to tackle and having had a bill for just under £1000 for a clutch replacement, labour cost was very cheap, parts and vat the killer, I'm a bit wary of making a leap up again. Regular service and wear and tear parts are ok on the Disco 3and are jobs I can do, I can live with that. I'm still not sold on the auto box off road ability though. As I said, 1800kg will be a light load for it.


30/1/2014 at 8:36am
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£1000 for a clutch replacement sounds a bit steep, but was that a main dealer? TD5 also has a DMF which is a tad expensive.

I did mine in October on the V8, parts were £175 and I went to an independent near Peterboroguh and gave him a hand with the job as well, £160.

Repair costs should be less for a newer vehicle than the D2, but there's loads of 'how to' articles on the web and in the glossy Land Rover monthlies.

It's a shame I can't raise more enthusiasm for the D3/D4, but I look at them as mainly non-DIY vehicles.

Peter


30/1/2014 at 7:29pm
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The clutch was replaced by a local 4x4 specialist, the parts weren't genuine but good quality not budget Britparts. He had to replace the flywheel, plate and cover and a pipe. He wasn't much dearer on the parts than I could get them off the net, labour was about £260 but the VAT stuck the price up a couple of hundred on the final bill.



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