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Subject Topic: 10 wires into 7 pin plug Post Reply Post New Topic
Persondean
27/4/2014 at 2:49pm
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Bought a new tow car (new to us) and it has towbar and electrics already fitted. But it has 10 wires going into a 7 pin female plug, and a 7 pin male to 13 pin female adapter. Been googling for the last couple of hours and can't find anything on how this could be wired. It's a westfalia towbar, but there is nothing about this on their website. Might have to get a tester and try that way.

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PersonSkoda Bob
27/4/2014 at 3:10pm
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It will all depend on how your van is wired, all new vans come with one plug, old vans come with 2, now if you have 2 plugs on the car and have a new van you can get an adapter to join both, and the same if you have the new plug on the car, and you have the old 2 plugs on the van,
Both can easily be changed to do away with the need of an adapter cable


Persondean
27/4/2014 at 3:15pm
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The van has 2 7pin plugs, but its the car that is confusing me. It has one 7pin plug, but there are 10 wires going into this plug.Why would it have 10 wires. I'm a little reluctant to plug the van in, just in case something goes pop.

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Only way is to check it out yourself or get it checked. You need at least a black 7pin 12N socket on the car and a grey 7 pin 12 S if you want to use the fridge etc. Best is a 13 pin which may only have 10 wires going to it.

Useful info here

http://www.caravanclub.co.uk/media/1022790/towbar-wiring-mo.pdf.


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27/4/2014 at 5:10pm
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One or two extra wires might be to a micro-switch to disconnect the rear fogs when you put a plug in the socket. Not common but i have seen it
Do you know someone with a meter who could check the outputs for you?


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Personmichell8
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Sounds like a bodge to me. Is it just 1 cable going into back of 7pin socket on car? Presumably then cable will be 13core cable so maybe 13pin socket has been changed for a 7pin? Your best bet is to google for wiring diagrams for '7pin wiring' & '13pin wiring' & go from there.


Persondean
27/4/2014 at 5:37pm
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It was fitted when the car was bought new, westfalia detachable unit,fitted by Peugeot. Unfortunately the previous owner never used the towbar, or remembers what was wired in. There is a 7 core and a 3 core cable, think i will have to get the meter out and check it, there are no micro switches that i can see either. Only thing i can think of, is 7 core to one side of vehicle and 3 core to other

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The car will be wired for the new vans that's all


Persondean
28/4/2014 at 1:10pm
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Mystery solved.
Took it apart and it does have a micro switch, this turns the parking sensors off.

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PersonSkoda Bob
29/4/2014 at 12:04am
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They only work in reverse


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Personcuz62
29/4/2014 at 2:49pm
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not on the ford kuga they dont !


PersonSkoda Bob
29/4/2014 at 4:17pm
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Quote: Originally posted by cuz62 on 29/4/2014
not on the ford kuga they dont !

the back ones should only work if you select reverse gear, what happens if someone decided to tailgate you??????????


Personcuz62
30/4/2014 at 2:16pm
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never asked my mate whose car it was, i fitted a tow bar on it last week and every time i walked past a sensor with the ignition on it beeps, must be bloody annoying though,there is a switch in the car to turn them off and there was also a little electric gizmo with the tow bar that switched the rear ones off when anything was plugged into the socket



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