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08/10/2014 at 9:17am
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Hi everyone,
This is my first time to caravanning and have been looking at different caravans to buy but am a little confused as to which caravan would be suitable as trying to work out the different weights has gone over my head so i am hoping some of you experienced people on here can guide me in the right direction.
I am looking to buy a second hand caravan 4 berth fixed bed single axle but just need to know what the maximum my car can pull as in terms of a caravan.

I have a Citroen Picasso 1.6 Diesel 2009

Height      1637mm
Length      4276mm
Wheelbase   2760mm
Width       1751mm

Gross Vehicle Weight        1850kg
Max Loading Weight            550kg
Max Towing Weight-Braked     1300kg
Max Towing Weight-Unbraked   690kg
Minimum Kerb Weight          1300kg

All help is greatly appreciated
                   


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How many beds do you need, 2 4 5 or 6.
Once you know, you go to a caravan dealers, and have a look at all the different types and layouts, then you look at the plate near the doors on the outside of the caravans these will give the MIRO, and MPTW, you then look for one around 85% of your vehicles max tow weight, you could also ask the dealer to check if your vehicle is suitable to tow your chosen van


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Quote: Originally posted by Skoda Bob on 08/10/2014
How many beds do you need, 2 4 5 or 6.
Once you know, you go to a caravan dealers, and have a look at all the different types and layouts, then you look at the plate near the doors on the outside of the caravans these will give the MIRO, and MPTW, you then look for one around 85% of your vehicles max tow weight, you could also ask the dealer to check if your vehicle is suitable to tow your chosen van



Thanks Skoda Bob now when checking for max Tow weight is that a braked or unbraked weight, Thanks for your help



08/10/2014 at 12:22pm
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All caravans have brakes so you would be looking at the braked weights plus you need to calculate 85% if the MTPLM and not the MIRO as this is the weight when it leaves the factory. The MTPLM is the maximum towing weight so if you subtract the MIRO from the MTPLM that gives you the payload which is the weight of all the other items you carry on board such as the battery, gas cylinders, water barrels, chairs, step, crockery and cutlery etc.


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Op sorry there is some very confused advice being given here

The 85% guideline for novice towers is based on the cars kerbweight.
So in your case 85% of 1300kg, or more accurately empty your car and take it to a weigh bridge and use that as a better guide. Chances are it will be higher than 1300kg

So currently you are looking at vans of 1100kg max ish


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Thank you to all that have helped me along and no doubt i will be back asking more questions


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Maybe you need to ask more questions but to get the correct information you may find that the link below answers all your questions you need to know.

Here


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Gross Vehicle Weight 1850kg

As you are not likely to get a caravan with a MTPLM of over 1650 (more likely about 1100) then you can tow on a B only licence

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Quote: Originally posted by ROG. on 08/10/2014
Gross Vehicle Weight 1850kg

As you are not likely to get a caravan with a MTPLM of over 1650 (more likely about 1100) then you can tow on a B only licence



Thanks and am a little embarrassed as i am a class 1 driver and should not have a problem working out the weights.



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Thanks to all but only yesterday i traded in my car and bought a Nissan Qashqai N-tec Dci 4x4 with a tow weight of 2100kg and 148bhp so no problems now.


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Quote: Originally posted by derekandsheena on 09/10/2014
Thanks to all but only yesterday i traded in my car and bought a Nissan Qashqai N-tec Dci 4x4 with a tow weight of 2100kg and 148bhp so no problems now.



this one? = http://carleasingmadesimple.com/business-car-leasing/nissan/qashqai-diesel-hatchback_2/66269/technical-data/



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Quote: Originally posted by derekandsheena on 09/10/2014
Thanks to all but only yesterday i traded in my car and bought a Nissan Qashqai N-tec Dci 4x4 with a tow weight of 2100kg and 148bhp so no problems now.




Don't forget the guidance still is 85% of kerbweight for novice towers. So assuming the Nissan has a kerbweight of around 1600kg (assumption of mine only) that is the figure to use for your guide

The 2100kg tow limit (sounds high for a Qashqai to be honest) just means that is what the car is approved to tow up a certain gradient in tests, NOT what it is safe to tow in regards to a caravan

Enjoy your new car!



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