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Personbikerbutch
17/1/2015 at 12:26am
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Hey people, im not too bad with traffic law being an ex HGV/PSV workshop manager, and now a law student.... but i found this flowchart which i think is really easy to follow....Im not sure if its been posted before? ..... Its just the job as long as you know the weights of the tractor and trailer.

All credit to Ifor Williams!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7guaI7CMAEfmHa.png:large


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Thanks for posting!

There's a bit more advice on Page 2.


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Is the trailer MAM more than the unladen weight of the vehicle?

That was revoked in full on 19/01/2013

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Here we go...Apologies to op, the updated version.



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Now correct


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For a licence dated 1997 or later you must add together the plated max weight of the caravan and trailer, if the total is 3500 or less you can tow it. You may even tow a caravan with a MAM greater than the cars unladen mass the restriction was removed in 2013

Mondeo Titanium 140 tdci


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Personbikerbutch
17/1/2015 at 5:37pm
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LOL! But if it was heavier anyway, would you want to tow it? I wouldnt!


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Original document (C) ifor williams, edited for your amusement.


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Quote: Originally posted by bikerbutch on 17/1/2015
LOL! But if it was heavier anyway, would you want to tow it? I wouldnt!


It did not say the trailer was heavier than the vehicle

It did say if the trailer plated MAM was heavier than the kerb weight

Big difference

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Most B+E sets ups have a trailer MAM which is heavier than the vehicle kerb weight so why that was ever an issue for B towing remains a mystery



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Personbikerbutch
17/1/2015 at 10:49pm
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I know one thing, with forgery skills like Grampian91 has, i aint buying any of those scottish bank notes from him


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Personjanus
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Quote: Originally posted by ROG. on 17/1/2015
Most B+E sets ups have a trailer MAM which is heavier than the vehicle kerb weight so why that was ever an issue for B towing remains a mystery




Sorry Rog I do not recognise this as true, it is certainly not true of people towing caravans.

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For a licence dated 1997 or later you must add together the plated max weight of the caravan and trailer, if the total is 3500 or less you can tow it. You may even tow a caravan with a MAM greater than the cars unladen mass the restriction was removed in 2013

Mondeo Titanium 140 tdci


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Quote: Originally posted by janus on 17/1/2015
Quote: Originally posted by ROG. on 17/1/2015Most B+E sets ups have a trailer MAM which is heavier than the vehicle kerb weight so why that was ever an issue for B towing remains a mystery




Sorry Rog I do not recognise this as true, it is certainly not true of people towing caravans.

Caravans have different safety advice than other types of trailer such as horseboxes

This would be a typical scenario for most trailer types
Vehicle
Kerb 1600
GVW 2200
Towing capacity 2000

Trailer
Empty 900
MAM 2500

As you can see the MAM is 2500 and the kerb/unladen is 1600

Max load for trailer would be 1100 in that scenario



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PersonGrampian91
18/1/2015 at 7:33pm
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Quote: Originally posted by bikerbutch on 17/1/2015
I know one thing, with forgery skills like Grampian91 has, i aint buying any of those scottish bank notes from him


Your loss, They may not be perfect but they are cheap

Top tip for potemtial forgers, When employing a proof reader do remember to ask if they are dyslexic




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