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PersonAndy 2480
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I have just purchased my New car and it has a 13 pin electrics plug on it .However my van has the two leads both 7 pin is there a converter I can purchase.


PersonAcornis
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Hi
Yea there about £20 look on towsure site. I noticed that the Range had them a bit cheaper if you have this store near you.

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Double converter is very cumbersome & will probably need lashing to hitch with bungee or something to prevent dragging on ground. Its better in the long term to have caravan converted to 13pin plug. You can get 13pin plugs that are specific for fixing to twin cables. Here

Double converter is here

You can get small single converter here that will allow caravan road lights to work but your 12S cable will not be plugged in so no fridge or leisure battery charging.

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This type of converter are a better bet that the ones with cables:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/7-pin-to-13-pin-TRAILER-TOWBAR-TOWING-SOCKET-ADAPTOR-PLUG-CONVERTER-/321480582977?pt=UK_Trailers_Transporters_Parts&hash=item4ad9bc6741


PersonBilly....
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If your new car has main dealer fitted towbar & electrics have you ensured all 13pins on socket are activated? Confusion can arise where only road light pins are live as standard & extra loom is required to activate pins for fridge & leisure battery charging on caravan.


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PersonAndy 2480
31/1/2015 at 7:29pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Billy.... on 31/1/2015
Double converter is very cumbersome & will probably need lashing to hitch with bungee or something to prevent dragging on ground. Its better in the long term to have caravan converted to 13pin plug. You can get 13pin plugs that are specific for fixing to twin cables. Here
This looks ideal is it as simple as joining both grey and black lead to 13 pin connector and away to go.
Double converter is here

You can get small single converter here that will allow caravan road lights to work but your 12S cable will not be plugged in so no fridge or leisure battery charging.

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PersonOctavia4x4
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13 pin plug with double cable entry at rear.



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Quote: Originally posted by bobajob59 on 31/1/2015
This type of converter are a better bet that the ones with cables:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/7-pin-to-13-pin-TRAILER-TOWBAR-TOWING-SOCKET-ADAPTOR-PLUG-CONVERTER-/321480582977?pt=UK_Trailers_Transporters_Parts&hash=item4ad9bc6741




Not if you have both 7 pin sockets.


Personnaturlist123
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Andy 2480 depends how practical you are, my last van was a Geist German made by the LMC group it came with 2 x7 core plugs as converted for UK market but cable was 15 core split under A frame. The new car was a Skoda Scout 2L tdi with a 13 pin pull down socket + removable swan neck. I purchased a 13 pin plug from local dealer for about £7/£8 plus a length of shrink sleeve with ID nearest OD of 15 core cable. Took me an hr to remove old plugs and fit 13 pin plug including shrinking sleeve with wifes hair dryer. Hardest part was locating very tiny black moulded numbers next to inside of pins only two wires different colour from downloaded diagram from Western Trailers x checked with separate download so last two wires not used but folded back into shrink sleeve. when tested everything worked first time, even what I thought reflectors along sides of van lite up did not when 2x7 plugs good luck more fiddly than difficult, before you start get a magnifying glass


Personjennygirlx
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I used the maypole 13pin double adapter yesterday, and aside from having to remove an internal ridge with a Stanley knife (couldn't get both cables to rotate to screw it closed) was ok. This was a pest though as I had to wire it twice in the cold! Neighbours now officially think I'm mad...


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Personandyd71
05/2/2015 at 10:56am
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Just about to pick up my new to me van ( an elddis 540 from 2010)

Only have a factory fitted 12n on car at moment is it better to get a 12s cable put in and wire both a single 13pin plug on the end

OR have it ripped out and a single 13 pin system put in as fresh

Also does the IDC system ( Winterhoffs version of Alko ATC) need the 12s/13 to operate?

(else all im missing is the battery charge and fridge , which I can live with till I get round to it)



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PersonBilly 3
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IDC needs permanent power supply so needs either 12n/12s twin sockets or single 13pin socket fully wired. If your new caravan has 13pin plug then you can tow it with car using adaptor & road lights will work.

Obviously better to have 13pin socket fitted to car if 'van has 13pin plug. How its done depends on car. If yours has car specific wiring for 7pin then an extra specific loom could well be available to convert it to 13pin or 12n/12s. If it has cheaper bypass relay then just get it wired for the extra wiring as is. Whatever is cheapest should work ok.


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sorry for being thick does this mean if I use the single 12n and an adaptor I will have lights but no IDC



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Correct, you will have no IDC because it is connected to permanent live which is pin9 on 13pin or pin4(I think, but check this)on 12s. With just the 12n socket on car connected via adaptor to 13pin plug on caravan you will have caravan road lights so ok to tow.



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