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Subject Topic: 99-06 Pajero
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11/1/2016 at 1:32pm
 Location: SHROPSHIRE
 Outfit: Swift Conqueror 560 Shogun tug
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I think you will find that the cooling systems on these trucks are designed to handle everything from arctic conditions to deserts. The viscous fan unit works very well and handles everything you can throw at it as long as it's in good condition. Electric fans are not the way to go. Shoguns are an terrific truck as long as they are serviced properly. If you want economy then this is not the truck to get but you will go a long long way to find a better tow wagon.
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11/1/2016 at 5:08pm
 Location: Greece
 Outfit: Stirling Elite Searcher
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It's always a tricky business researching things on the t'net.

First off you get the folks that don't say much about a car unless they've had a problem.

You then get the folks that refuse to accept anything bad about their choice to the point of fanaticism.

You've then got the ones that are in between but swing in either direction.

So it's always tough getting good reliable info.

That being said i've read too many reports on the foreign Paj forums of cracked heads and overheating to accept that the cooling system is good enough for towing in 40c+ temps.

The stock gauge is all but useless, so it's impossible to get reliable temperature data from anyone that hasn't installed aftermarket temp gauges.

Obvious some cars cooling systems are in a better state than others, but it seems common that in 35c+ temps the cooling system is near it's limits, this without towing as well.

It's no doubt made worse when folks insist on throwing lamps and huge chucks of mental in front of the car.

I've got some decent datalogging devices on my other cars so will check things like EGT's CHT's A/T and coolant temps and see what i get.


Another question please
Obviously i'll be towing with the car, most Pajero's/Shoguns i've seen for sale already have a towbar fitted, if there is no stickers on the tow bar stating it's make, model and capacity how will i know if it's good enough?



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Mark


11/1/2016 at 7:43pm
 Location: Northumberland
 Outfit: Knaus Sudwind 550 TK
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Think my tow ball sticker says I'm allowed 150kgs...

And my towing limit is 2200kgs...

As for reading the data, it maybe an OBD socket, but you need 'MUTT' (I think you call it) software, or it won't read...

And as said on the POCUK forum, 'You don't by a Shogun etc for the MPG'.....

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12/1/2016 at 11:06am
 Location: SHROPSHIRE
 Outfit: Swift Conqueror 560 Shogun tug
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Quote: Originally posted by kwaked on 11/1/2016
It's always a tricky business researching things on the t'net.

First off you get the folks that don't say much about a car unless they've had a problem.

You then get the folks that refuse to accept anything bad about their choice to the point of fanaticism.

You've then got the ones that are in between but swing in either direction.

So it's always tough getting good reliable info.

That being said i've read too many reports on the foreign Paj forums of cracked heads and overheating to accept that the cooling system is good enough for towing in 40c+ temps.

The stock gauge is all but useless, so it's impossible to get reliable temperature data from anyone that hasn't installed aftermarket temp gauges.

Obvious some cars cooling systems are in a better state than others, but it seems common that in 35c+ temps the cooling system is near it's limits, this without towing as well.

It's no doubt made worse when folks insist on throwing lamps and huge chucks of mental in front of the car.

I've got some decent datalogging devices on my other cars so will check things like EGT's CHT's A/T and coolant temps and see what i get.


Another question please
Obviously i'll be towing with the car, most Pajero's/Shoguns i've seen for sale already have a towbar fitted, if there is no stickers on the tow bar stating it's make, model and capacity how will i know if it's good enough?



Cheer
Mark



Mark,
I don't believe that the mk3 suffers with overheating and popped heads. That refers to the older MK2s and then thats probably due to age and neglected cooling systems.I used to have a 2.5 4D56 shogun which got hot towing and yes it blew the head. But after a proper repair with a new head and good fitting it never gave a moments problem again.I fitted an after market gauge then and it never ever got above 95 working very hard.
My MK3 tows like a locomotive up hill down dale no difference. When I first got it I replaced the top cam chain guide (suspect part) and replaced the viscous fan with a new unit from Blue print.I didn't like the original unit....no resistance. Shoguns are far from perfect but still a great truck. Pay attention to the filler pipes under the off side rear arch.
regards
F


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