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Subject Topic: Towcar kerbweight confusion Post Reply Post New Topic
Personbluebird.01
14/6/2016 at 11:58am
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I own a 2015 2.0 diesel Skoda Octavia and wanted to know it's true kerbweight

Handbook = 1279 kg

V5 section g = 1330 kg

Actual weight at public weighbridge no driver,half tank of diesel, towbar no luggage or load = 1320 kg
So adding a driver at 75 kg = 1395 kg, which has to be in place to provide the dynamics for towing and is a much more accurate figure in my opinion.I hope this helps others


Personbessie500
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This is valuable infomation that will help anyone looking to purchase a Octavia like this and stay within the legal or cc guidelines

True weights are always better than the mad towing figures often quoted on here.

Might be a good idea to change the title to 2015 octavia kerweight, this will help people looking in future

Bessie


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Bessie

Thanks for your supportive reply

Derek


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If your close to the limits on your licence etc then the V5 weight and actual weight would be the figures i would use.

Whichever figure gave me the best safety margin. Just in case your stopped and checked.


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Go with the figures on the plate at the bottom of the driver's side B post, as that is what the Police/DVSA would use.


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V5C includes 90% tank of fuel plus 75kg for driver, my 2012 V5C mass in service is 1,495kg. The handbook states the kerbweight includes this, however there is no reference in the handbook technical section to kerbweight only 'unloaded weight ready for work' which is 1,495kg!

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Quote: Originally posted by LlaniDavis on 14/6/2016
Go with the figures on the plate at the bottom of the driver's side B post, as that is what the Police/DVSA would use.

The police aren't bothered about kerbweight, only whether you are overloaded, and have the right licence. They would weigh each axle of the car and van, checking these against the axle plate on car and the MTPLM on the door plate on the van, to check that neither is individually overloaded, and that combined, the outfit does not exceed the gross train weight specified by the car manufacturer, nor that allowed on your licence.


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The figure the police go by is the towcars Gross Train Weight. However, from a safety viewpoint, the car's KW is the figure which should be taken and related to the caravan's MTPLM, or whatever it is.

And don't always take the weight on the V5C document as being accurate. My Sorento's is several hundreds of kgs out!

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I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure!


PersonSkoda Bob
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Go by the max tow weight and deduct your vans max weight.

Swift Freestyle 400
Mass in Running Order (Kg) - 1036
Maximum Technical Permissible Laden Mass (Kg) - 1205

Perfect match.http://www.thetowcarawards.com/winners/2015-up-to-1400kg/


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When the police do a licence and weight check they will check these things are legal ...

Vehicle plated GVW not exceeded
Trailer plated MAM/MTPLM not exceeded
GTW = actual weight of both together not exceeded
Vehicle towing capacity = actual weight towed not exceeded
Towbar max load not exceeded
Driving licence covers what is being driven/towed

They are not interested if the plated GVW + MAM/MTPLM weights exceeds GTW as that is not illegal
They are not interested if the plated trailer weight exceeds the towing capacity as that is not illegal



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EX LGV & B+E instructor



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