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Subject Topic: V5c especially F.1..... Post Reply Post New Topic
16/8/2016 at 8:28pm
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Fundamental question I hope someone can help me with

On V5c:

G. mass in service = 1571
F.1 max permissable mass (exc m/c) = 2030

What does exc m/c mean?

Thanks in advance

Neil


16/8/2016 at 8:43pm
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gross train weight

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16/8/2016 at 8:46pm
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Hi

G is your kerb weight of the car

And

F1 Is the maximum weight of your car .

Hope this helps


16/8/2016 at 8:49pm
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So the total weight I can have in the car is 2030-1571=459kg??

Not a lot for a family of 5, infact I'm pretty sure we will go over that figure


16/8/2016 at 8:50pm
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what car is it ?

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16/8/2016 at 8:52pm
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16/8/2016 at 8:53pm
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Pretty sure mass in service includes the driver and fuel.

459kg is nearly half a ton. It's a fair bit.


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I've realised my mistake - bad maths!!


16/8/2016 at 8:55pm
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16/8/2016 at 8:56pm
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Yes

459kgs

In old money just under 1/2 ton

How easy it is to be over weight.


16/8/2016 at 9:04pm
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1571kgs

Some manufacturers allow 75 kgs for the driver

And a percentage for fuel.



16/8/2016 at 9:05pm
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I was working a few things out re towing and was converting known body weights to lbs but not further again to kgs so my numbers were roughly 2x what they should of been.

Time to go to bed!


16/8/2016 at 11:51pm
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Its very easy to load over 500kg into a family sized car.

I thought the same i can carry over 500kg, but add in 4 passengers and their luggage and it didnt leave any room for my FIL's small mobility scooter.

You say your likely to go over that figure and if stopped then you risk your journey ending there and points/fine for an overloaded vehicle.

Thats the max figure, you cannot legally exceed it.


17/8/2016 at 6:55am
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Agreed. The purpose of this exercise was to see where I need to be re; a caravan. We generally carry 4 plus a dog in the boot so I have roughly 200kg to play with in the car.

However it is my intention to get a weight of me plus car plus fuel; similar exercise with caravan and go from therr


17/8/2016 at 11:34am
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Quote: Originally posted by ngrant01 on 17/8/2016
Agreed. The purpose of this exercise was to see where I need to be re; a caravan. We generally carry 4 plus a dog in the boot so I have roughly 200kg to play with in the car.

However it is my intention to get a weight of me plus car plus fuel; similar exercise with caravan and go from therr



You also need to consider the 'noseweight' that is included in the cars payload and could be 75-80kg, so not much left of the 200kg!


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