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Personqueensmessenger
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Do as I did and bought a nearly new car by paying the deposits with my savings then paying the balance on a credit card? Wait for it. Then get another new credit card from an issuer who gives interest free on transfers. Transfer from one card to the interest free one then off yoyu go. Pay the monthly minimum if you wish or whatever you can easily afford to pay and when the interest free period comes to an end simply transfer to another interest free card. Get the car for cash price. Simple as long as interest free cards are not stopped.

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Quote: Originally posted by bessie500 on 19/12/2016
The 2 ltr mondeo tdci like for like model has got heavier with each shape, this current model is 95kgs heavier than my last car, I'd be pretty certain the insignia is heavier than the old vetra it replaced

Bessie


The Mondeo is unusual in this respect but gained weight because of Ford's decision to design a global car and move it upmarket with more equipment. It is also quite old comparatively, having been on sale in the US for more than two years before being sold here.

The forthcoming Insignia is up to 175kg. lighter than the model it replaces, making it considerably lighter than the Mondeo.



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Humberwolf my opinion is all fords are heavy i weighed a 2wd kuga in the summer that came in at 1745kgs, i weighed a Insignia last december that came in at 1745kgs both these cars didnt have towbars fitted either.
As for ford spec increasing i actually have less than my 2011 mondeo, many things are are now optional extra's including the X pack.

Just in case you are wandering i have a weigh bridge next to were i work, so if i happen to be in a different car i weigh it post it so it may help someone make the right car choice in the future

Bessie


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Quote: Originally posted by bessie500 on 20/12/2016
Humberwolf my opinion is all fords are heavy i weighed a 2wd kuga in the summer that came in at 1745kgs, i weighed a Insignia last december that came in at 1745kgs both these cars didnt have towbars fitted either.
As for ford spec increasing i actually have less than my 2011 mondeo, many things are are now optional extra's including the X pack.

Just in case you are wandering i have a weigh bridge next to were i work, so if i happen to be in a different car i weigh it post it so it may help someone make the right car choice in the future

Bessie


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If you need a big heavy car the Mitsubishi Shoguns are reasonably priced, a bit old school but with a 3.1 litre engine will tow most caravans.

We looked at them but don't need anything that big and as they are not terribly economical. They are all autos now and can be had as long or short wheelbase.
They quite are popular in Australia where fuel is a bit cheaper and they do have unsurfaced roads!

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PersonRay Clayton
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Hi Humber
i think thats only the 2.0 land rover discovery.
And only rated at 2.5 ton towing limit.


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PersonHumberWolf
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Hi Ray.

I'm sure you're right, but when the Q7 loses over 300kg and the Land Rover even more, that's a lot of weight loss for those with heavy vans who are considering a replacement.

Actually I only responded because I was starting to feel sorry for Bob after I had attacked him on another post and everybody was piling in here. I'm sure my compassion won't last long!


PersonRay Clayton
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lol
Bobs ok
I was looking at the new disco last night, looks like its based on a rrs body. And its alloy body will make it lighter.
Not my cup of tea think iwill stick to the 3 & 4.
At least i can use it all as a all round motor, work dogs, famiy, chuck what i like in it & tow most things i want to.


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PersonST1100
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Quote: Originally posted by HumberWolf on 20/12/2016
Hi Ray.

I'm sure you're right, but when the Q7 loses over 300kg and the Land Rover even more, that's a lot of weight loss for those with heavy vans who are considering a replacement.


One problem comparing the new Discovery to the old one is the Discovery Sport is a new model based on the Evoque chassis not the Discovery one so you have to be careful to compare the proper new full size Discovery to the old one not the new Sport version.


PersonRay Clayton
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Hi ST
Not comparing the sport that is an evoque with differant front wings.
Was comparing the new Disco 5 with the RRS
Looks a bit of a hybred between RRS and Disco Sport seen 2 new ones today.
Land Rover will loose a big market with farmers etc going down this route if they don't come up with a replacement Defender, as the Disco 4 was the last work horse imhv.
The 5 not be in the same class.

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Quote: Originally posted by Ray Clayton on 21/12/2016
Hi ST
Not comparing the sport that is an evoque with differant front wings.
Was comparing the new Disco 5 with the RRS
Looks a bit of a hybred between RRS and Disco Sport seen 2 new ones today.
Land Rover will loose a big market with farmers etc going down this route if they don't come up with a replacement Defender, as the Disco 4 was the last work horse imhv.
The 5 not be in the same class.


How does the weight of the Discovery 5 compare with the Discovery 4?

I would imagine the Range Rover Sport being heavier then the old Discovery 4 was even though they shared the same chassis too.

Completely agree about them loosing out on the farming market.. Wonder if the farmers go for the pickup trucks instead from now on.



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PersonRay Clayton
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They were based on the disco chassis, but i thought they made it lower? could be wrong.

The question was the new land rover had lost more than than 300kg in weight. Which the new 2l 5 model has done. keeping its towing weight at 3500kg

Personaly just looking at the new 5, its the same as the Discovery sport.
They just dropped the sport name.

http://www.landrover.co.uk/Images/All_New_Discovery_main_brochure_tcm295-293373.pdf?_ga=1.121061704.1748573517.1482353027


Old 3/4
Mas 2590
Gross 3230kg

New 5 3l TDV6
mass 2298
Gross 3170
Mass loss of 292kg
Gross loss of 60kg

New 5 2l TD4 (New model to the marque)
Mass 2184
Mass loss of 406kg
Gross 3130
Gross loss of 100kg

wonder how the electric tow bar works on the new model as well. Hope it was better than the old one lol





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Ray, just had a look on the Land Rover site and yeah they have made the Disco 5 lighter by quite a bit, wonder how many miss out the Disco 5 S with its 2l engine though and go with the bigger 3l ones on the SE and above.

The Disco 5 though is a different car to the Disco Sport which is still based on the Evoque chassis.

Land Rover New Vehicles

Actually, looking at those weights for the new Disco 5 they have now made it around the same weight as my Range Rover P38 I used to have .... just shows how the weights must have jumped up over the years and now they are trying to reduce them again.


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Quote: Originally posted by bessie500 on 19/12/2016
Sorry Ray Bob stated that cars were getting lighter, but my last 3 cars just keep getting heavier.
The mans a bloody idiot

Bessie



I would lay off the pies then



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Kia Carens, if you go for a mark 2 check out the handbrake first, it is foot activated.

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