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Personscawbyboy
08/3/2017 at 9:49pm
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There is a lot of talk at present that diesel cars are going to be penalised for their pollutants. Talk of scrappage schemes, higher road tax,congestion charges etc. No real mention of lorries, buses,vans etc.
What are peoples thoughts ?

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Personmacquatic
08/3/2017 at 9:58pm
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Long thread already started HERE

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Personscawbyboy
08/3/2017 at 10:01pm
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Sorry for that. Missed the thread .

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PersonGCMS2012
09/3/2017 at 6:50pm
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You're a 'motorist'....

Regardless of you choice of vehicle - petrol / diesel / hybrid and electric eventually, you're always going to be shafted and seen as an easy 'cash cow'....

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PersonPickled Onion
10/3/2017 at 11:38am
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Quote: Originally posted by GCMS2012 on 09/3/2017

You're a 'motorist'....

Regardless of you choice of vehicle - petrol / diesel / hybrid and electric eventually, you're always going to be shafted and seen as an easy 'cash cow'....


Agreed

Dave.

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PersonOpensauce
10/3/2017 at 12:58pm
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Even with new road tax rates for cars registered April onwards the first year tax rate will be cheaper for a diesel car than petrol version of same car with similar bhp. The diesel version will have better mpg than petrol version so cost less in fuel. So I'm failing to see how diesel cars are being penalised.


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10/3/2017 at 7:17pm
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As for the road tax, you notice they're now 'moving the goal posts'...?

So EVERYONE with a fossil fuelled vehicle are going to be 'taxed' in some way, hence them only letting fully electric car to still be tax free....

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PersonOpensauce
10/3/2017 at 8:10pm
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A tax regime with decreasing revenue year on year as technology reduces Co2 emissions year on year was never going to last.


PersonGrampian91
11/3/2017 at 11:13am
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It wont be long before zero emission vehicles will be taxed also.

As mentioned cars and drivers are cash cows, need more money for some hair brained idea but where to get the money, why not the motorist?

None of the people that make the decisions pay for their own vehicles or fuel so it wont affect them.

Which MP was it that said a loaf of bread costs about £20 when asked some years back?


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11/3/2017 at 11:39am
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So what do we want then? No road tax, no fuel tax, no income tax & drive tracked vehicles between towns with no roads? What seems to escape most folks that tax revenues are required in order to provide services. If you think the services are bad then it is because of not enough tax revenue not too much.

The new road tax rates are quite fair. No increase for existing cars & 2yrs notice of the road tax changes. Why should zero emissions or low emissions pay no tax? They are still taking up road space.

The £450 road tax on cars over £40k is fair enough. Whatever one's motoring requirements there is a car under £40k available so a luxury car can be a choice & taxed accordingly.

Road tax in the Netherlands anybody? How about £500pa for average sized petrol car & £1400pa for diesel.


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Person664DaveS
11/3/2017 at 3:28pm
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12 billion pounds in overseas aid a year.Yet our services are struggling.Does'nt seem sensible or fair to me.

I accept that if I can afford a £40k plus car, then the road tax is affordable.
It would be nice to see some of the potholes being repaired!

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