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PersonBig Brian 56
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Hi all ,
As an ex motorhomer I,m still getting to grips with various aspects , but
as we are going round France , we have decluttered the caravan ,including the front locker .
All that's in now is the water pipes , the gas bottle waste and flush bottles and a few wooden blocks .
Question is .... do I need to have a certain amount of weight , I know I haven't to put too much in , but do I need to have some to maintain balance/harmony with the car ?
TIA

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PersonRob and Tina
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What is the max nose weight allowed on the car? What is the actual nose weight of the loaded caravan?



Rob


PersonBig Brian 56
11/5/2017 at 10:06pm
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The nose weight of the caravan is maximum 100 kg, how would I know the nose weight allowed on the car , it's a Peugeot 4007

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PersonRob and Tina
11/5/2017 at 10:14pm
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The nose weight of the car should be in the handbook. The caravan should be loaded so that the nose weight is not higher than the max allowed on the car or caravan. I presume that you have already checked that the caravan max weight is towable by the car.

The max nose weights of car and caravan must not be exceeded so if one has a lower nose weight limit than the other then the lower limit is the one to work to.


Rob


PersonRob and Tina
11/5/2017 at 10:24pm
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I forgot to mention that you should have a nose weight of 4% to 7% of the caravan gross weight to get a stable tow. 7% would be better than 4% but the max nose weight figures of car and caravan must not be exceeded.


Rob


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PersonBig Brian 56
11/5/2017 at 10:43pm
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Will dig the handbook out tomorrow , went on one of the car/caravan match sites and it said was a good match, but why would my handbook mention nose weight , do you mean the car weight in relation to MIRO ?

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PersonRob and Tina
11/5/2017 at 10:54pm
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The car has a maximum nose weight limit. This is the maximum down force on the tow ball, if this is exceeded the car handling and ride will suffer eg light steering etc. The car handbook should tell you the max towing weight and max nose weight figures. The MTPLM of the caravan should ideally be around 85% of the kerb weight of the car unless the max tow weight is lower. Beware of websites that use the wrong figures eg towcar info which works out a percentage of the car partly loaded not the kerbweight.


What is the MTPLM of the caravan? What is the kerb weight of the car? What is the nose weight limit of the car? If you post the figures we can work out the percentages and nose weight etc quite easily.


Rob


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What car are you towing with?


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He said it was a Peugeot 4007.

Rob


PersonGrampian91
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Should be stamped on the towbar plate. The S value.

Appears to be 100kg but double check your plate.


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12/5/2017 at 12:59am
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I have also checked what the towball downward weight limit is for the Peugeot 4007 and agree with Grampian91 (above post) that the figure is 100 kgs.
You need the appropriate noseweight for stability reasons because if the noseweight is too light, the caravan is likely to snake (unless the caravan has ATC fitted) and too heavier noseweight can put adverse pressure on the vehicle's rear springs and suspension plus in severe cases can make the steering light with less traction.
If you want to accurately measure the caravan's noseweight then you will require a noseweight gauge to obtain the current hitch weight then move items around inside the caravan till the correct noseweight is acheived.
Below is a video link which may be of help regarding noseweight.

Here


PersonAlan Partridge
12/5/2017 at 1:24pm
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The Peugeot 4007 is a version of the 2007-2012 Mitsubishi Outlander. I have towed with one of those since 2011. They are all 4 wheel drive.

With a caravan on the back, and about 70kg noseweight (limited in our case by the caravan hitch) I use 4WD Auto. That is effective in preventing the front wheels spinning on a damp road at a junction or on a hill start.

I've just replaced the 2011 manual car with an automatic, I haven't towed with that yet - I'll find out next week how it fares.

Incidentally, I rarely bothered with 6th gear while towing with the manual.

Best wishes for your holiday.


PersonBig Brian 56
12/5/2017 at 5:42pm
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Thanks for all replies , have put windbreak in front and will borrow a nose weight gauge , think it won't be far off now 👍

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PersonAlan Partridge
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If you can just about lift it, it's probably OK. Keep your back straight;)


Personfreeatlast
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Quote: Originally posted by Alan Partridge on 12/5/2017

I've just replaced the 2011 manual car with an automatic, I haven't towed with that yet - I'll find out next week how it fares.


I can answer that: Brilliantly. After a few miles the gearbox automatically adjusts to the van on the back and tends to change up and down at somewhat higher revs.



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get a bathroom scale and a bit of broom handle, place broom handle on scale, and under hitch, lower Jockey wheel and see what it reads



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