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02/2/2018 at 5:44pm
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02/2/2018 at 6:29pm
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Thanks for that, I've just purchased a Diesel mover for 'Wobble Boxes'. Thank goodness I got a recent MOT, but next January I reckon I'll be in trouble. Grrr

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02/2/2018 at 6:51pm
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So nasty MOT testers have actually got to check more carefully that poor downtrodden diesel car owners have not blanked egr valves & gutted DPF boxes? What a shocker eh?

The rest of the article alludes to plenty of the test being open to interpretation by tester. It is fair to say that throughout the history of the MoT test it has always helped if the tester is yer mate who you buy a few pints for in the pub later.


02/2/2018 at 6:58pm
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Personally I don’t see much to worry about. 😀

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02/2/2018 at 7:14pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Mike3003 on 02/2/2018
Personally I don’t see much to worry about. 😀



Unless you own an elderly diesel tow car

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02/2/2018 at 7:15pm
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Personally
I an't bothered.
Facts of life are.

If you are legal you have no problem.

If you had a local garage that blanked your egr valves off and remapped your car, and does your MOT its a pass.

If your not at a garage that did your valves remap etc, and you fail, so be it.



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02/2/2018 at 7:26pm
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Out of interest,I did some 'Googling'

Quote:-
Car Mechanics asked the DVSA for their response to fitting an EGR blanking valve and they said : "DVSA's priority is to help you keep your vehicle safe to drive, ensuring that it meets required roadworthiness and environmental standards. Vehicles may fail the MoT where emissions control equipment has been tampered with but irrespective of the MoT such modification is an offence*. DVSA continues to work with DfT to persue such offences, including taking disciplinary action against any MoT garages found to be conducting modifications."

* Road vehicles (construction and use) regulations (Regulation 61a(3)). Removal of an EGR valve, diesel particulate filter etc. will almost invariably contravene these requirements, making the vehicle illegal for road use. The potential penalties for failing to comply with Regulation 61a are fines of upto £1000 for a car or £2500 for a light goods vehicle.
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Quote: Originally posted by oxter on 02/2/2018
Quote: Originally posted by Mike3003 on 02/2/2018
Personally I don’t see much to worry about. 😀



Unless you own an elderly diesel tow car


Provided the car is well serviced & in a good state of repair you won’t have any problems. If you are driving it with antipollution parts removed then as pointed out the car is illegal to drive & uninsured & needs crushing.


02/2/2018 at 9:21pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Opensauce on 02/2/2018
Provided the car is well serviced & in a good state of repair you won’t have any problems. If you are driving it with antipollution parts removed then as pointed out the car is illegal to drive & uninsured & needs crushing.



Quite, but it seems a few people can't understand that, or they don't want to!



03/2/2018 at 11:23am
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Just had my 11 year old Saab diesel tested, it passed. Its had a new egr valve a few years ago.I make sure it has a good run to clean the dpf out.

If it becomes a problem in the future it will have to go.

I could get a good price on a scrappage deal, but I don't want to pay out for a new one,and am loathe to scrap a very good car which we love.
Our evil diesel Santa Fe is only 1 year old and Euro 6 so should be fine, anyway has 5 years warranty.




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03/2/2018 at 12:12pm
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Quote: Originally posted by oxter on 02/2/2018
Quote: Originally posted by Mike3003 on 02/2/2018
Personally I don’t see much to worry about. 😀



Unless you own an elderly diesel tow car


Ours is a 2005 3.0l diesel with 112k miles on the clock and I see no reason to worry as we do not have a DPF fitted and the vehicle is serviced regularly?


03/2/2018 at 12:29pm
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Have had to VW emission software 'fix' done, so now nothing but clean air coming out of the exhaust
It will come as a shock to those that have removed or gutted the cars DPF.

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03/2/2018 at 1:27pm
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"New MOT regulations to harm diesel drivers further"

What a load of scaremongering bollox!

DPFs were a grey area along with EGR removal etc. The regs have only been tightened up to stop these practices.
It always was (and still is) only an MOT testers opinion of the condition of a component on the day it is inspected.
"Steering boxes leaking oil" - steering boxes are mainly fitted to more to commercial end of the market, but fitted to petrol vehicles too.

If a vehicle is maintained properly then the MOT is not a problem. Think the other way, it gets old junk off the road if it's not looked after.

BTW, I have 2 diesel cars, a Passat with 170,000 miles on it and a CRV with 120,000. Both run sweet and pass MOTs no problem. And I have no intention of getting rid of either!

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04/2/2018 at 10:44pm
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As an ex MOT tester & I've read the "petrol Prices" article, the article is somewhat alarmist.

Firstly when new items to be included in the test, they are, with very rare exceptions, almost never "retrospective" e.g. no car older than say 20yrs old, would be able to pass the current emmission standard! but it could pass the standard required when it was 3 years old.

Secondly, the MOT test has NEVER been a "black & White test! it's a two part test.

The first part is an objective test, put simply, does it work & meet the required standard for the vehicles age, yes or no!

The second part is "Subjective" as it's the testers opinion/interpretation on what constitues excessive wear etc. you could ask 10 testers & get 10 different answers/opinions.

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05/2/2018 at 12:39am
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Part of the new test is the visible smoke test, any smoke and it fails, the problem is it could be sitting at idle, while the rest of the vehicle is tested, then the smoke test with the exhaust probe, the tester then revs the engine, to around 3000 revs or more, and smoke is bound to be emitted, due to the vehicle sitting still, with the turbo spooled up, my 600,000 mile superb was tested it filled the garage with smoke but still passed,



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