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14/3/2018 at 8:59pm
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hi I hope some more clued up people could maybe help me out..

basically my lights on my trailer are playing up and driving me mad haha

recently I noticed my brake lights were not working on my car and light board but running lights & indicators were fine, so upon checking the fuse realised it had blown, so changed the fuse no big deal I thought ...

upon changing the fuse in my car I checked again and again (running lights and indicators) are working ok, but now once the brake pedal is pushed my car brake lights work fine but my trailer/light board running lights go off and on in sync with the brake being pressed..

I am clueless with these things, I have checked all the wire from the board to the plug and everything looks fine, no splits or bare wires I can see, the board is in decent condition, i am stumped as where to start, please help it is driving me mad


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Have you got a towing relay fitted between your car wiring and towbar irony


15/3/2018 at 12:36pm
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Me thinks you will find it's a bad earth... just have to find it. The power is taking an alternative earth route and in your case through the lights and indicators.   


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Quote: Originally posted by Kev537g on 15/3/2018
Have you got a towing relay fitted between your car wiring and towbar irony



I'm not sure what that is kev, everything worked fine until recently haha now I'm stressed out 😂


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Quote: Originally posted by Johnnie Boy on 15/3/2018

Me thinks you will find it's a bad earth... just have to find it. The power is taking an alternative earth route and in your case through the lights and indicators.   



Cheers 👍🏼 If I can't find the fault would I be best off buying a new light board or would I still have problems with a bad earth even with a brand new board ? I really don't have a clue about electrics 😂


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15/3/2018 at 7:54pm
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Electric comes in two flavours for your car and trailer lights.
Positive and negative.

It travels from your car battery through wires as positive until it reaches your trailer light.

Having passed through the light bulb it becomes negative.

The negative travels back to the car battery through wires but often also travels through the car bodywork which is made of metal and conducts electric just as well as wires do if not better.

That negative part is called earth because grown up electric, like in your house, is connected to the soil or the ground so we call it earth.

So what they often do with trailer lights is use wires to get the positive as far as the bulb then a piece of wire to take it away from the bulb to the metal of the car. It then runs through the metal and another very thick cable connects it back to the battery.

They use one wire for the positive for each type of light. Side light, brake light, indicator etc but several may return through one wire.

An earth problem is likely because several things are not working right. The electric is getting there but cannot return properly, so it is probably going to an earth connection and then back into another light and then back through that other lights earth return making that light come on.

There will probably be a connection from a wire to your trailer metalwork which is faulty. If you find one give it a wiggle and that may make it work. Alternatively there may be a similar connection in the back of your car.


15/3/2018 at 8:00pm
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If it's a faulty earth, and I also suspect it is, the most likely place is in the plug or socket. I would try spraying some WD40 onto the pins and putting the plug in and out of the socket a few times. If that doesn't work you may need a new plug or socket.

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15/3/2018 at 8:21pm
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Quote: Originally posted by navver on 15/3/2018
Electric comes in two flavours for your car and trailer lights.
Positive and negative.

It travels from your car battery through wires as positive until it reaches your trailer light.

Having passed through the light bulb it becomes negative.

The negative travels back to the car battery through wires but often also travels through the car bodywork which is made of metal and conducts electric just as well as wires do if not better.

That negative part is called earth because grown up electric, like in your house, is connected to the soil or the ground so we call it earth.

So what they often do with trailer lights is use wires to get the positive as far as the bulb then a piece of wire to take it away from the bulb to the metal of the car. It then runs through the metal and another very thick cable connects it back to the battery.

They use one wire for the positive for each type of light. Side light, brake light, indicator etc but several may return through one wire.

An earth problem is likely because several things are not working right. The electric is getting there but cannot return properly, so it is probably going to an earth connection and then back into another light and then back through that other lights earth return making that light come on.

There will probably be a connection from a wire to your trailer metalwork which is faulty. If you find one give it a wiggle and that may make it work. Alternatively there may be a similar connection in the back of your car.



Thanks for the info 👍🏼 Very much appreciated


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Quote: Originally posted by Colin21 on 15/3/2018
If it's a faulty earth, and I also suspect it is, the most likely place is in the plug or socket. I would try spraying some WD40 onto the pins and putting the plug in and out of the socket a few times. If that doesn't work you may need a new plug or socket.



Cheers much appreciated 👍🏼


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thank you everyone, I am hoping to have a look at it this week, I will report back with my findings ...


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20/3/2018 at 10:21am
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Definitely sounds like a poor earth connection. The plugs and sockets can get damp or corrode internally.

If you can borrow another trailor board to try it could show wether the fault is the trailor or car.

The 7 pin plugs are easy enough to split apart and check inside for corrosion or loose wires.
The blown fuse indicates a fault has occured.




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20/3/2018 at 3:58pm
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Quote: Originally posted by 664DaveS on 20/3/2018
Definitely sounds like a poor earth connection. The plugs and sockets can get damp or corrode internally.

If you can borrow another trailor board to try it could show wether the fault is the trailor or car.

The 7 pin plugs are easy enough to split apart and check inside for corrosion or loose wires.
The blown fuse indicates a fault has occured.






Thanks for all the help guys, i took everything apart starting from the back with the bulbs, gave them all a good clean and put back together (still a problem) so I dismantled the plug and there was some corrosion on a couple of wires, so I took it all apart and cleaned each wire and pin, then put it all back together with some dielectric grease on each wire and pin, then reassembled it all, put in in fired the car up and RESULT it is working great 👍🏼 Fault must have been the corrosion on the wires 😉 I'm well chuffed 😁 Thanks for all the help it is very much appreciated


20/3/2018 at 6:17pm
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Always gives you a when you sort it


20/3/2018 at 11:24pm
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21/3/2018 at 8:55pm
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I hear they're desperate for you to get up to Hinkley Point C to sort that out now.



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