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Subject Topic: clutch - towing issues Post Reply Post New Topic
Personblack-major
28/5/2018 at 6:06pm
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will a new clutch solve the issues regarding torx and power - we have a kia sportage 2.0 petrol and tow an avondale agente the MLTP is 1400 acorrding to the kia web site our sportage can tow 1400 on 85% and 1600 on 100% - she goes like a bomb when not towing but seems sluggish when towing ie she a bit flat - we have towed long distances with her and no issues - she has done 88k and was previously used a tow car before

advice needed do you think a new clutch would solve this and give return on the towing power - torx


Personmarg6
28/5/2018 at 6:12pm
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short answer - no not one bit of difference unless your clutch is actually slipping, I think you need to take a chill pill and relax a bit, and remember you have a big white box behind you and of course that is going to slow any car down.


Personkenles
28/5/2018 at 6:17pm
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Is the clutch slipping if not you are just wasting money all cars are sluggish when you are pulling a caravan that big box
If you get a tail wind you will go like a rocket


PersonDecto
28/5/2018 at 7:15pm
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For a non turbo petrol engine you need revs in low gear. The power output of the engine is roughly proportional to rpm so for the same acceleration you need to double the rpm which isn't all that practical, however 3-5thd is like to be the range to keep the big white box moving though expect 15 to 20 mpg.

Imagine you had a 1 litre engine, that's effectively what you've done adding the big white box


PersonHairywol
30/5/2018 at 2:40pm
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Was your previous car diesel?

Power characteristics between diesel and petrol are marked,in particular the delivery of torque, or pulling power.

A diesel engine is typically lower-revving and will deliver maximum torque usually at under 2,000 rpm. Petrol on the other hand, having typically higher power but less torque, will deliver max pulling power at perhaps 4,000rpm.

If you're driving your petrol engine in the same way as a previous diesel, you will experience a very sluggish response (and probably not get as good a response at any rev point).

And as the other replies say, your clutch isn't a factor.

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Personalbee
05/6/2018 at 8:50pm
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Hi, as point of. Interest I tow with xtype jaguar. When I tow caravan to Cornwall starting with full tank of fuel I arrive with just a quarter of a tank left. When I go down to caravan solo without caravan I am left with between half and three quarters tank. A dash board reading of mpg. Is 49miles solo 28 miles when towing.thats the difference towing makes to my cars performance.


PersonGrampian91
08/6/2018 at 6:46pm
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Is that the 2L diesel? Do you tow in 5th or 6th gear?

With my old 2L Mondeo diesel 5th gear was more fuel efficient when towing.


Personrustyfrog
14/6/2018 at 3:20pm
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At 88,000 miles and a fair bit of towing, perhaps the Kia Sportage feels she needs a little rest now and again!

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Personbobmel
14/6/2018 at 10:57pm
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That is the difference between petrol and diesel

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Personthe black fox
17/6/2018 at 1:16pm
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just towed a swift challenger 480se 2 berth north Wales to east Yorks there and back fully loaded ,with Kia Sportage 2.0ltr diesel manly 6 th gear apart from trans pennines ,,hardly knew it was there I worked it out to around 32-34 mpg. on the outward journey .car behaved impeccably


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PersonBaileyjake
19/6/2018 at 1:20pm
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not sure what you mean by 100% or 85% is this kerb weight to MPLM ratio or the gradient of the incline?

whan you hear folks say "i dont know the caravan is there" its a little white lie that caravanners sell you when bragging about their car.

i will put my hand up and tell you the truth.

i have a mitsubishi shogun capable of towing 3500kg, it has a 3.2L 197BHP engine and a kerb weight of 2200kg.

whan i tow with it it appears not to break a sweat but i can definately detect that i am dragging a 1600kg white box behind me. when on the flat crusing at 60 i could almost forget the caravan is there but accellerating up slip roads or away from traffic lights its definately not as quick as it is solo.

i used to tow with an outlander and on power to weight ratio it was probably better and probably accellerated quicker than the shogun but because it didnt have the kerb weight and wheel base dimensions it felt less stable.

i think you need to accept that "ye canne change the laws of physics captain"

and dont listen to people who say thay cant tell the caravan is there because either they are the passenger, are numb from the neck down or are telling fibs.... or perhaps they tow an Eriba puck with a landcruser.

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