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PersonAlyson MacConnachie
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Hiya! Does anyone have an idea where I can find out mgw of 1970's Elddis Shamal 4 berth caravan?


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It will be on the chassis plate. At that age its possibly on the A frame or on the chassis side visible from the door side. (just in front or behind of the wheel.

Are you sure its a 1970's model?

Can you upload a picture to your galley?


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24/6/2018 at 11:09pm
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I don't know the date for sure. I'll see if I can work out how to upload a pic!


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24/6/2018 at 11:40pm
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And this is the only plate I can find anywhere on the chassis.


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PersonAlyson MacConnachie
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Can you see those photos? All I see on the forum is a cracked image icon....
Why is it so difficult to share an image on this forum?


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24/6/2018 at 11:55pm
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Ok.how about a facbook album then.

http://https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10208945083543940&id=1821480400


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25/6/2018 at 12:16am
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Ok how about this then

http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/chatter/gallimages/large_458674_3.jpg?nocache=6642

This is a link from image gallery .... surely we can see this one?

I did have a good look all round the chassis and everywhere else I could think of ,and the only thing I found was an aluminium plaque on the A frame with zero loading or weight info ... just manufacturer of the trailer company and a serial number of some sort.

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late 80s that caravan is


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25/6/2018 at 1:34pm
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Quote: Originally posted by marg6 on 25/6/2018
late 80s that caravan is


Smashing thanks. I might be able to narrow down my internet searches now that we have a time period. 👍


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If there is no other clue then crawl underneath there should be a plate on underside of axle which will give you max axle rating. If no other indication is on the caravan then rating of axle maybe 1300kg for that caravan will be your mgw. I would put caravan at early 80s


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25/6/2018 at 11:08pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Opensauce on 25/6/2018
If there is no other clue then crawl underneath there should be a plate on underside of axle which will give you max axle rating. If no other indication is on the caravan then rating of axle maybe 1300kg for that caravan will be your mgw. I would put caravan at early 80s

Hi, thanks. I still don't see any plaques or obvious markings underneath ... maybe it fell off.
However, your date estimation helped with detective work.
I found an old thread from 2009 in which a member with a profile photo showing a virtually identical van dated 1981 and described as an "Abi Elddis shamal" stated from thier book (presumsbly they had the owners manual) that it was 790kg unladen and 934kg maximum laden weight ... I am asuming this is MGW.

So in theory I can now calculate tyre pressure using the formula.

Currrnt tyres are 155 R13C 90/88 max 600kg at 65PSI - single axle. Thus I can calculate (65/600)×(934÷2)= 50.592 >51PSI.

Working on the premise that the awning, some camping chairs, cooking utensils, some other assorted camping bumff, and two 7kg gas bottles in the locker dont put it over the weight limit.

Does this sound about right?


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26/6/2018 at 9:26am
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Take caravan empty to public weighbridge & weigh it. Unhitch it & weigh just caravan. If empty weight is around what you say then loaded weight should be about what you say. If tyres are old like well over 5yrs then you should replace them. If 155C tyres which are heavy duty van tyres are not available then go to 165/80X13C van tyres which are available. These will have load rating of around 94 so adequate for caravan. Do not use car tyres of same size which will have insufficient load rating.


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26/6/2018 at 1:19pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Opensauce on 26/6/2018
Take caravan empty to public weighbridge & weigh it. Unhitch it & weigh just caravan. If empty weight is around what you say then loaded weight should be about what you say. If tyres are old like well over 5yrs then you should replace them. If 155C tyres which are heavy duty van tyres are not available then go to 165/80X13C van tyres which are available. These will have load rating of around 94 so adequate for caravan. Do not use car tyres of same size which will have insufficient load rating.


Good idea thanks.
As for the tyres, I replaced them about 6 years ago- we used the van about 3 times then the dpf on the tow vehicle choked up and killed the car so the van has been in the driveway ever since. I just went out and checked the DOT code which says they are now 7 years old so I will replace them... seen them online for £30-£40 a tyre. 👍




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