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12/7/2018 at 10:39pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Phishing on 12/7/2018
No, the correct way to do it would be to resource it properly.
Am I a structural engineer no, I studied a technical subject.
Yes, they are reinforcing every bridge between 21 and 16. They have been for 4 years!
If you think that 4 years is acceptable then this apathy explains why the infrastructure of this country is going down the toilet. It is not acceptable. Why are there not 20, 30, 40 people on each bridge to finish it in months not years?
It will take nearly 10 years to finish this between 21 and 13. Yes that's 10 years!
The cost to trade and freight operators is vast.
Next week we will have the government moaning that they don't understand why we are not as productive as our European cousins, being listened to by 50000 working people stuck in this mess for hours every day.
How much extra are you willing to pay in taxes for all these extra staff to finish works quickly?
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13/7/2018 at 12:00am
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Quote: Originally posted by Phishing on 12/7/2018
No, the correct way to do it would be to resource it properly.
Am I a structural engineer no, I studied a technical subject.
So actually you have no specific technical experience of bridge construction and maintenance.
Quote: Yes, they are reinforcing every bridge between 21 and 16. They have been for 4 years!
If you think that 4 years is acceptable then this apathy explains why the infrastructure of this country is going down the toilet. It is not acceptable. Why are there not 20, 30, 40 people on each bridge to finish it in months not years?
Because we don't have enough people to do this!
Or perhaps you have a magic people tree?
Quote: It will take nearly 10 years to finish this between 21 and 13. Yes that's 10 years!
And?
If we don't have the people to do it then so be it.
Quote: The cost to trade and freight operators is vast.
So move the goods on to the railway and stop blocking the road.
Quote: Next week we will have the government moaning that they don't understand why we are not as productive as our European cousins, being listened to by 50000 working people stuck in this mess for hours every day.
You do like to exagerate, don't you?
AS I said, there is a simple answer. We do what they do on the railway and competely close the road so that they can have complete possession and be able to get the job done quicker and cheaper, but then you'd complain about that too!
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13/7/2018 at 2:49pm
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I don't have to pay more taxes. Any half baked economist will ably demonstrate that having infrastructure that works is the biggest contributor to industrial efficiency.
Conversely having poor infrastructure is a huge financial burden on an economy.
So apparently we have to put up with dreadful infrastructure because we don't have enough construction workers. Will get serious then when we send the two Polish blokes with the chip hammers home!
We can put our freight on the rails because they loads of spare capacity don't they!
I don't have any technical experience of bridge building and I am wrong to question things when it takes 10 times longer to repair it than it took to build it in the first place.
I like to exaggerate. Well just try this route as I do two or three times a week. 20 to 30 miles of standing traffic is common at peak times and on a Friday a national disgrace form lunch to evening. It adds on average 1.5 hours to my journey, sometimes both ways. Just do the sums and you see the cost to the economy of this mess.
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17/7/2018 at 10:27pm
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Quote: Originally posted by takisawa on 10/7/2018
As above . :-)
But it’s not that bad, just a bit slower in rush hour.
It’s not as bad as the M5 with the 30mph zone. What the hell are they doing that requires a speed that low ? If a risk assessment throws up a danger of that magnitude then you need to question the contractors working practices.
This!
I moved to Swindon some 20 years ago and regularly make the journey north to visit family. In all those years there have been permanent roadworks at the same spot on the m5. I've tried doing the journey by night, by day, during the week, during the weekend, early mornings. Not once in 20 years have I managed a clear run.
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Quote: Originally posted by daveyjp on 11/7/2018
Quote: Originally posted by Whatamess on 11/7/2018
Having suffered works like this for the last 10 years in our area once complete the extra lane makes a huge difference.
I'm sure it does make a diffrence...........to the family broken down in lane 1, when they get booted up the back-end by an HGV!!!
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