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22/8/2018 at 1:15pm
Location: North Wales Outfit: Elddis
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Tow bars have to comply with set standards so does not really matter what make they will all comply.
So the only difference is what they look like, with some cars the ball can be quickly removed so you don't know the car has a tow bar.
Electrics is some thing else, there are two basic types, 13 pin and twin 7 pin, depends on age of caravan.
Then there is what you want to be powered in the caravan when towing. You can get.
1) Reversing lights only.
2) Non ignition supply.
3) Ignition supply.
The latter it seems changes according to caravan towed, with no charging in caravan there is no need for split charging diodes or voltage dependent relays, with a DC to DC inverter in the caravan again nothing special needed in the car.
However if the caravan connects the caravan battery to the car battery to charge the caravan battery without using a DC to DC inverter then some other method is required to stop the reverse happening and the car using the caravan battery.
With a car with a simple alternator the voltage dependent relay does a good job, however this is not the case if the alternator is controlled by the cars engine management, it would need a blocking diode to stop reverse current as you don't want a voltage dependent relay dropping out as it would stop the electric anti-snake from working.
However a blocking diode was never really successful charging the caravan battery, so likely better having the caravan battery charging disabled.
When I use to tow many trailers the electric anti-snake did not exist, today one would not worry if the trailer towed did not charge its battery while being towed so one would fit blocking diodes, that ensures anti snake works.
However if you then want to tow your own caravan you would need to by-pass the blocking diode so there was reduced volt drop so it would charge using a DC to DC inverter. OK commercial but you would hardly want a blocking diode fitting if after you are going to by-pass it.
First question is does the Navara pickup have the alternator controlled by engine management? If not simple voltage dependent relay will do. If it does then next question is what will the caravan being towed have? Can it be easy stopped from trying to charge battery? My caravan just needs one fuse removing, are you going to pay out for a DC to DC inverter.
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22/8/2018 at 1:44pm
Location: Cambs Outfit: Ford Duetto Autosleeper
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Quote: Originally posted by ericmark on 22/8/2018
Tow bars have to comply with set standards so does not really matter what make they will all comply.
So the only difference is what they look like, with some cars the ball can be quickly removed so you don't know the car has a tow bar.
Electrics is some thing else, there are two basic types, 13 pin and twin 7 pin, depends on age of caravan.
Then there is what you want to be powered in the caravan when towing. You can get.
1) Reversing lights only.
2) Non ignition supply.
3) Ignition supply.
The latter it seems changes according to caravan towed, with no charging in caravan there is no need for split charging diodes or voltage dependent relays, with a DC to DC inverter in the caravan again nothing special needed in the car.
However if the caravan connects the caravan battery to the car battery to charge the caravan battery without using a DC to DC inverter then some other method is required to stop the reverse happening and the car using the caravan battery.
With a car with a simple alternator the voltage dependent relay does a good job, however this is not the case if the alternator is controlled by the cars engine management, it would need a blocking diode to stop reverse current as you don't want a voltage dependent relay dropping out as it would stop the electric anti-snake from working.
However a blocking diode was never really successful charging the caravan battery, so likely better having the caravan battery charging disabled.
When I use to tow many trailers the electric anti-snake did not exist, today one would not worry if the trailer towed did not charge its battery while being towed so one would fit blocking diodes, that ensures anti snake works.
However if you then want to tow your own caravan you would need to by-pass the blocking diode so there was reduced volt drop so it would charge using a DC to DC inverter. OK commercial but you would hardly want a blocking diode fitting if after you are going to by-pass it.
First question is does the Navara pickup have the alternator controlled by engine management? If not simple voltage dependent relay will do. If it does then next question is what will the caravan being towed have? Can it be easy stopped from trying to charge battery? My caravan just needs one fuse removing, are you going to pay out for a DC to DC inverter.
Wow Eric, thank you the simple answer is, I have no idea. I will have to find out
Cheers jakki
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