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Subject Topic: How do you measure nose weight? Post Reply Post New Topic
05/9/2018 at 10:44am
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I don't think I have a problem, however nose weight has always been a problem with cars with soft springs, there were a host of spring assisters made blow up balls inside the coil spring, extra leaf which bolted on, and special shock absorbers.

One method was a spring between the car and caravan, this also had a fraction shock absorber built in so both lifted rear of car and reduced snaking problems.

If using one of these, then not sure how you can measure nose weight, it will be less than weight measured at ball with caravan disconnected from car, but how much less?

In the old days the important thing was ground clearance at the ball, you simply wanted as much weight on the ball as possible without causing jockey wheel from hitting the ground.

I would guess you would need to add recommended nose weight to car and measure deflection and then ensure same deflection when the assisting spring is put in position, but are there any laws on this or just common sense?     


05/9/2018 at 10:49am
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Have a look on 'youtube' on how to measure noseweight as there are plenty of videos showing what you need and how to proceed.


05/9/2018 at 7:51pm
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Quote: Originally posted by ericmark on 05/9/2018
One method was a spring between the car and caravan, this also had a fraction shock absorber built in so both lifted rear of car and reduced snaking problems.

If using one of these, then not sure how you can measure nose weight, it will be less than weight measured at ball with caravan disconnected from car, but how much less?
    



Lets start with the basics. The spring you describe will not reduce snaking problems. It will mask any instability problems that exist until such point as you get a more severe snake. Stabilisers don't stabilise, they just dampen the motion a bit, which is great if you have a stable combination.

The second point is that it will not lift the rear of the car, it cannot. Any "lifting" of the car would be transferred to the caravan hitch so it would press down more on the towball. Result no difference.

Get an old pair of bathroom scales and a block of wood. Put the block on the scales, and zero the scales. Then drop the hitch onto the block so the caravan is very roughly level and measure the noseweight.

I'm sure someone will rush in to suggest the caravan must be exactly level, however that's not true, a few degrees off level makes virtually no difference.


14/9/2018 at 11:28pm
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ericmark, "in the old day" Memories of my dad in the 60s.

https://www.caravanguard.co.uk/news/how-to-measure-and-adjust-your-caravans-nose-w........

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15/9/2018 at 8:05am
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I have towed our caravan with a nose weight varying between 50kg and 90kg and cannot decern any difference either in the ride or towing stability. The lower figure being with the van empty and the higher with the van deliberately loaded to that level. I normally tow with the nose weight about 78kg because that’s what it happens to be when our normal junk is in it and the gass bottel is full.


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17/9/2018 at 7:41pm
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I would invest in a nose weight gauge. if you use scales and a bit of wood it needs to be at the height of your towball around 460mm. As you lower the jockey wheel there is a chance that the wood could slip when the wheelis off the ground, also if you then to make any adjustments the wheel will need to be lowered first and it may be needed to be done more than once to achieve the correct weight. There are loads of choices available cheap ones are a waste of money and wont be accurate. I purchased a digital one made by Reich and its brilliant, it fits on to the towball raise the steadies up and lower the hitch onto it, if adjustaments are needed you can enter the caravan and have a shift about, once its at your weight raise jockey wheel remove it and hitch up so simple accurate and less than £40

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