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Subject Topic: Tucson Automatic 2.0 CRDI
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Persondavid8858
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Oh well been and gone and done it! Just bought a 2017 version of the above.

It has a towball fitted so after we collect it on Wednesday its off for a trip somewhere to see how the towing goes.

Never towed with an auto before - I must admit it drove well on the test drive but obviously no ‘van on the back.

Weights check out so I anticipate it will be fine - previous owner obviously towed with it.

I know Autos ‘creep’ if you put them in drive and let off the brake. Will it still creep with a caravan on the back or will I have to apply revs to make it move forward or back?

Advice welcome.

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Personbobmel
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Watching with interest.

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I’ll find out on Wednesday as we’ve booked a few nights away at a cl on a hill near Southwell.

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Personnavver
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To stop the creep just put your foot on the brake. I usually slipped it into neutral if I was stopped for some time.

Keep your left foot screwed to the floor. Under no circumstances use it for anything. Use your right foot for accelerator and brake.

If you use your left, you will get in a mess at the wrong moment.

Mine tended to change up and down based on the speed the car was doing. When towing, these speeds were inappropriate. So I used the manual switches to change gear instead.


Persondavid8858
14/7/2019 at 8:13pm
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Hi Navver

So is it possible to ‘force’ an automatic gearbox to stay in a gear rather than changing up when it ‘wants’ to?

So far as I can see the only control I have is by use of the ‘mode’ control.

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PersonANDY-R
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Hi David

You can manually control most autos either by means of paddles on the steering column or now most common with drive selected, push selector to the left or right. Most are marked with + & - signs to select up or down the gears. Some have this position marked as sport mode.

Andy R.

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PersonMike3003
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Please don’t worry at all about driving/towing with an Auto, once you have you will never go back to a manual.

It is a far, far superior driving experience. 👍😁

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Quote: Originally posted by Mike3003 on 15/7/2019
Please don’t worry at all about driving/towing with an Auto, once you have you will never go back to a manual.

It is a far, far superior driving experience. 👍😁


Agree with this, but not just towing, solo as well. And fuel consumption as well, there's only a coupke of mpg in it.


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Persondavid8858
16/7/2019 at 7:55pm
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Thanks for the re-assurance guys. I’ll know tomorrow!

We’re off to Southwell to a CL on a hill so it will get a good test.

Looking forward to finding out. I may be back to ask for tips for using an auto to start on steep hills maybe but I’ll see how I get on.

Thanks again.

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Have a look at the manual for it, you might find it has some sort of hill start control.

With my Lexus you press the brake pedal down until it activates and a light appears on the dashboard when you then have around 30 seconds time to remove foot from brake pedal (the car holds you on the brakes) while you press the throttle to move off uphill.


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I tow with the earlier version of the Tucson automatic, and it's a great tow-car. After towing with an auto for many years I wouldn't have a manual as a gift. Manual gears are ok in something like a Caterham 7, or any other sports car for a bit of fun, but not in anything else in my opinion, and certainly not for towing.

Hill starts with all the autos I've had are simplicity itself. Just take your foot off the brake and put it on the accelerator and away you go. If the hill is really steep and you want a bit of reassurance just hold on the handbrake and release when your foot is on the accelerator. (Not sure about more modern autos without a torque converter though).

I see "creep" as an advantage. It allows you to move slowly forward or back just by easing off the brake pedal. Mine does it just the same with the caravan on the back, unless I am on a hill. My previous autos have been the same.


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PersonBaileyjake
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i have a shogun 3.2 diesel auto. it has a sport mode where i can select the gear i want but i find it doesnt acheive anything. it will not allow the car to stall or rev too hard so will change up and down automtiacally all be it later than if in Drive.

its an old school auto with a fluid flywheel type torque converter so theres the added benefith that the clutch cant get burnt out or overheated if doing start stop driving with a caravan or trying to reverse up onto a pitch higher than the road.

also the torque converter doesnt 'lock up' at too low an RPM so forcing it into higher gears than Drive would select results in the torque converter slipping.

i perfer towing with the Auto than previous cars and i still drive manual hire cars and company vehicles and prefer my shogun now.

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We changed to an automatic Kia Sorento in March after 45+ years of driving manual cars.
After a bit of trial and error regarding the Mode settings and manual override, especially while towing, and wondering whether the auto-hold and the electronic parking brake really would hold, we are now converts!
On hill-starts the electronic parking brake holds the car/caravan until you move off using the accelerator, so it's as simple as Colin 21 says - though a little unnerving at first!
The week after getting the car we towed about 150 miles in this country and since then over 3000 miles abroad (over two holidays). Solo and towing, we are getting better mpg than with the manual, which has got to be a bonus!


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18/7/2019 at 10:28am
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Well that was a doddle. Arrived safely. Cruise control worked fine on motorways and speed more constant than with a manual. It looks like we used less fuel too.

Hill up to the campsite no probs no backsliding no need to rev excessively car still creeps nicely even with the van on the back on an incline!!

At this rate I may even get the Mrs towing! - then I’ll need a supply of Valium!

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Excellent! I have to agree with the others about towing with an Auto.

I'm interested in your "rig" can you tell me what the weight of your 'van is please? Any comments about towing with the Tucson ie stability at 60mph etc would be helpfull too



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19/7/2019 at 5:20pm
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Hi Tidburyboy

Caravan is a 2016 model Lunar Clubman and MPTLM is 1438Kgms from memory.

Some cabbage had fitted 7 pin electrics and a detachable tow bar to the Tucson which surprised me but the effect was that I had to buy an adapter to couple the caravan which has 13 pin electrics to the car which has a single 7 pin.

This means that the ATC wasn’t powered for our first trip but despite that the outfit was stable on the A1 even with lorries passing. The stabiliser in the hitch must have worked ok. The Tucson does have a gizmo to help with towing stability according to the handbook.

As soon as I get back from this trip I will organise a proper tow bar and 13 pin electrics so that next time out (which is probably to Wales in August) I should get the full benefit including the ATC.

I was under the impression that the 2.0l Deisel engine on the 2017 Tucson was basically the same engine as used on the 2013 IX35. The performance on the Auto has been better with acceleration from 40 to 60 and from a standing start distinctly livelier that’s my manual IX35.

I haven’t tried towing with the transmission in Sports mode yet. I have done some solo driving with it and it definitely makes everything happen quicker but looks as if it uses more fuel so I’ll stick to normal mode for now.

Hope that helps



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