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17/5/2020 at 1:22pm
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Yep the MG ZS EV is maid by SAIC in China, the worlds largest manufacture of EV’s they also make many fossil cars as well.
At the initial launch it was said at the press conference that it would have towing capacity although this was not said on camera, check out Bjorn Nyland on youtube he filmed the press conference which was quite a cheesy affair and did not inspire confidence in the product or the MG brand for that matter.
Although the MG ZS EV is a bargain at around £21k which for a new BEV is a shockingly low price.
Anyway MG have missed a trick omitting towing, but I guess it could be down to the small battery size, the MG ZS EV is of course based on the fossil version of the same car, and this is the problem you get when the car is not designed as an BEV from the ground up, I would imagine the MG ZS EV will have a shortened production run, and that a model with a bigger battery is already on the drawing board and that will be the one that gets the towing specification.
On the upside, the Tesla Model Y is available with a tow capacity of 1,500kg and nose weight of 145kg, the only downside is that it’s three times the price of the MG.
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17/5/2020 at 3:52pm
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Yes, saw that Tesla Bjorn video at the time, also I was on the MG ZS EV Facebook group started by James Coates (James and Kate youtube) and dealers were saying towing of 750kg braked at the start. I crawled under the back of the EV and the petrol ZS and they were exactly the same, even had the bolt holes for the tow hitch. Most likely they felt it wasn’t worth the cost to them of getting it homologated for towing but for a family SUV I think they should have done. I wasn’t the only one on the FB group to cancel my order because of the towing.
The MG is a great price, but the quality was not on a par with our CRV, my Soul EV or my wife’s Nissan Leaf (24kWh). Also, there are a lot of features missing from the MG that EV drivers would really consider essential. For example, the MG doesn’t tell you what percentage battery you have remaining, just a guesstimated range based on your recent driving. There is no way to preheat the car or charge the car on a timer, again pretty useless when you are going to likely want to a) set the car to start charging when your cheap night tariff starts or b) get it warmed up and defrosted in winter before you get in it. No heat pump for the heater and aircon, not good for winter range.
Despite being a heavier car, and having the aero efficiency of postman pats van, my Soul EV is averaging 4.8 miles per kWh (October until lockdown) on the trip computer and well over 5 when calculating miles travelled for percentage battery used (the trip computer is always conservative on the Soul). This was good for 135-150 miles over winter. MG owners were often getting low 3’s miles to the kWh. Not an efficient car.
Got the Soul EV at auction bought for me by Jonathan Porterfield at eco-cars.net and delivered to my door. Was a great way to buy the car and cheaper than buying from a main dealer or even privately.
The I pace and Model 3 can tow, I think the etron and EQC can too, but all mega bucks.
MG are bringing out another EV this year, the MG5 EV. It’s an estate car with a 600 litre boot. Battery is 52kWh apparently so 200ish miles range and will be cheaper than the ZS EV. You can put a holding deposit on one for when they arrive in a few months. Looks a little like a Kia Optima sportswagon from the side.
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Yep Jim, the Kia Soul is a good BEV, but again not designed from the ground up as a BEV, being based on a fossil car.
Of course for the legacy auto makers, starting again on design is a huge investment, that they can get away without doing, and why not if the tooling is already in place.
This is the main advantage that Tesla have, in that they have no legacy fossil car to rework, apart from the very first Roadster that is, and that was a Lotus in any case, but they only built a small number of those as there first ever BEV.
You have probably seen Sandy Munro doing the tear down of the Tesla Model Y, that car is years ahead of what is already out there, and will sure make a nice used buy in a few years time.
Tesla really have got the secret sauce when it comes to batteries, inverters and motors, I don't think any other automaker will ever catch them up.
It is what it is.
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