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26/6/2021 at 1:05pm
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Good to see that the new VW iD.4 can tow up-to 1000kg (un-braked 750kg) which should make it ideal for tent campers with trailers.



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Sounds right up your alley, especially as you’ll need a tow car next year.

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To be fair at £38k it represents a better buy than the Tesla Model Y, when that becomes available later this year, and if I can opt out of my company car, the iD.4 on 3 year lease could be a possibility.

The iD.4 Will of course be a decent buy as a used car, say in 3 years time when you can get a high mileage one that has come of lease.

The reality for me is more like I will be buying a 3 year old Diesel Dacia Duster sometime next year.


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Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 26/6/2021
To be fair at £38k it represents a better buy than the Tesla Model Y, when that becomes available later this year, and if I can opt out of my company car, the iD.4 on 3 year lease could be a possibility.

The iD.4 Will of course be a decent buy as a used car, say in 3 years time when you can get a high mileage one that has come of lease.

The reality for me is more like I will be buying a 3 year old Diesel Dacia Duster sometime next year.



What about those like me who can't even look at a car until it's at least 10 years old as they are just too expensive. Will they still be any good at 10+ years old? My old diesel Volvo that I sold is still going strong apparently and that's now 21 years old. I plan to keep my 13 year old diesel X Trail until it gives up or until I have to stop driving.


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The drive train is good for a million miles, who knows what the batteries will be like in ten years, but even with a worst case scenario of 20% degradation that would still give 240 miles range, although in ten years time there will probably be some kind of battery refurbishment scheme at low cost, giving increased range over what the car had when first built.


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26/6/2021 at 10:45pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 26/6/2021
The drive train is good for a million miles, who knows what the batteries will be like in ten years, but even with a worst case scenario of 20% degradation that would still give 240 miles range, although in ten years time there will probably be some kind of battery refurbishment scheme at low cost, giving increased range over what the car had when first built.



If I'm still around in 10 years time, I may not still be driving, but who knows? My father died at 85, 13 years older that I am now, and he was driving up to 2 years before he died. I plan on keeping my X Trail going for as long as possible. I'll run it until repairs become uneconomic. I do about 9,000 miles a year apart from the last two years where I've done less than 4,000 miles total, so in 10 years time the X Trail will have done a similar mileage to what my Volvo had when I sold it, and that has done another 40,000 miles since.



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Can`t help but wonder what towing 1000 kgs will do to the range. You may need 500 kgs of batteries in the trailer to get anywhere.

Still think hydrogen is the long-term way forward, but I`ll stick with diesel, it`ll see me out until I give up touring.


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Our wee 1000cc UP is great, had it from new and only £20 a year tax 😍 keeping it forever 😍


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To be fair with the ID.4 towing a small 750kg camping trailer, the range reduction is probably   less than that if you were using a roof box, as the trailer will be in the slip stream of the car, same applies to fossil cars as well of course.


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Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 26/6/2021
To be fair at £38k it represents a better buy than the Tesla Model Y, when that becomes available later this year, and if I can opt out of my company car, the iD.4 on 3 year lease could be a possibility.

The iD.4 Will of course be a decent buy as a used car, say in 3 years time when you can get a high mileage one that has come of lease.

The reality for me is more like I will be buying a 3 year old Diesel Dacia Duster sometime next year.



A What ???? Dacia duster what happened to the grand plan of buying a 2 year old ex lease tesla for bugger all

I said at the time the residuals would be high for the Tesla, just had a quick look at the cost of a 2019 model 3 they seam to be starting from around 35k.
it's amazing how many Tesla's i see in my local area & on route to work

Bessie   



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I think the effect on range whilst towing a small camping trailer will be marginal, in fact it is less than when using a roof box, as a small camping trailer will be in the slip stream of the car, so maybe less than 5% reduction in range, it would be interesting to find out what the reduction would be, probably no different using a fossil car.


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Quote: Originally posted by Francais on 27/6/2021
To be fair with the ID.4 towing a small 750kg camping trailer, the range reduction is probably   less than that if you were using a roof box, as the trailer will be in the slip stream of the car, same applies to fossil cars as well of course.




I thought that as well.

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Hi
My road tax this year is creeping up towards £600.
The Discovery 4 is probably a lot cleaner than most out there when under load, as at 1500 rpm with nearly 2 ton on back easy cruisers at 60 mph.

So i looked around for a cheaper car more greener and safer.
Guess what cannot find one!!!!

Most are not stable with more risk of snaking.
Most do not have the power to get you out the !!!! when needed.

So i will put up with it for now.
Yet if a year newer same car £250 a year tax because of having stop start.

Don't make sense, but makes money lol






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Road tax has always been a rip-off, and it's even more so these days. As you rightly say Ray, it does make money though, but it does nothing for the environment.



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Towing my 500kg dandy folding camper with the 1.6 diesel peugeot partner the fuel consumption dropped to 43 mpg against 50mpg solo. That was a long motorway journey.

Caravan on same car drops it to around 30mpg.

Towing drops the speed to 60mph rather than 70mph solo and that must make a difference.

A few years ago I had a Triumph Dolomite with teh 1850cc DOHC Saab engine. I piled loads on the roof (pram and more etc) and had the trailer on (tent and frame tent etc) and the car would barely move on the motorway.

Piled it all on top of the trailer on the return and it flew along. So yes, roof racks are hopeless.


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Quote: Originally posted by navver on 28/6/2021

A few years ago I had a Triumph Dolomite with teh 1850cc DOHC Saab engine. I piled loads on the roof (pram and more etc) and had the trailer on (tent and frame tent etc) and the car would barely move on the motorway.

Piled it all on top of the trailer on the return and it flew along. So yes, roof racks are hopeless.



Great cars the 1850 Dolomites. I think you got the engines the wrong way round though. When I had mine, a sandglow coloured model, a neighbour had a Saab, and it had Triumph on the engine. He showed me it as it was the same engine as mine, but mounted the other way round.


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