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Topic: Audi A4 avant B8 2Lt Diesel for towing?
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16/5/2022 at 6:10pm
Location: London Outfit: Lunar Cosmos 524
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Welcome.
You're basically right, but couple of other figures to be considered, there will be a 'Gross Train Weight' figure which is the maximum weight of car and trailer combined. Often the the car/trailer weights are traded against each other, whereby you can't fully load the car AND tow the max trailer weight! To tow the max weight trailer you may have to have the car loaded lighter. That hinges around the GTW.
The Vin plate figures are explained here: https://www.ntta.co.uk/law/law/towing-capacity
As you are asking these questions, I'm assuming you are a novice at towing. The caravan industry has a recommendation that novices don't tow trailers weighing more than 85% (Known as the 85% 'rule' - it's NOT an enforceable rule or law, just a safety recommendation) of the cars Kerb Weight (Mass in Service), so 85% of 1650Kg is 1402.5Kg. It's not cast in stone, so the Swift Major's weight wouldn't be a problem, but the Swift Challenger is 94% match, so pushing things a little too far perhaps. The recommendation is so that the risk of 'tail wagging the dog', as in caravan having excessive influence over the towing car is minimised with a novice driver who may not have developed the skills to retain control, basically out of control snaking that often puts car and caravan on their roofs or in a ditch or Armco barrier!
Technically it's legal and safe to tow up to the car's declared towing limit, but there is a set of skills to be acquired in towing, and only time and experience (and maybe a little extra tuition) bring those. Just about everybody who tows will experience a touch of the dreaded snaking, often caused by HGV bow waves or sudden cross winds, but experience will recognise it coming on early and hopefully allow it to be brought under control, whereas a novice may let it get to a point where there is no recovery! The lighter the trailer the easier it is to control.
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16/5/2022 at 6:23pm
Location: Midlands Outfit: 2019 VW Arteon + 2002 Avondale Dart
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Hi Charles
The 'maximum permissible towing mass of a braked trailer' means just that. It's based, largely, on the weight of a trailer that the car can move on repeated standing hill starts. If you planned to tow a commercial or agricultural trailer weighing 1700kg for just a few miles, I'd say fine, go ahead.
However, a caravan is a different beast. It's less stable by design than most other types of trailer, being long and high-sided, and will often be towed for longer distances and at higher speeds. It's for this reason that the caravanning industry recommends that a caravan should not weigh more than the car's mass in service (1650kg in your case). For those new to towing, the widely-held recommendation is that the towed weight of a caravan should be limited to about 85% of your car's mass in service for the reason Monty has stated.
The Sprite Major at 87% of your car's mass in service when fully loaded should be absolutely fine. The Swift Challenger, at 94% is legally towable by your Audi, but it's on the upper limit of what I would want to tow and that's with the benefit of around 6 years towing experience.
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