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Subject Topic: Towing with Renault grand scenic 1.3 Post Reply Post New Topic
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Hi I'm first time caller has anybody towed a caravan with a Renault grand scenic 1.3 petrol need some help thanks


04/7/2022 at 9:01am
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Unfortunately you do not give the year of the Grand Scenic or whether it is manual or automatic. Is it the 115 or 140bhp?
If it is the 2019 GS 115bhp then on the safe side a caravan weighing up to a maximum of about 1300kg should be okay although the GS can tow up to 1850kg. This info applies to models on sale up to April 2019.


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Sorry its automatic 1.3petrol 140 2019 is the engine big enough thank you


04/7/2022 at 10:11am
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Quote: Originally posted by MickG1951 on 04/7/2022
Sorry its automatic 1.3petrol 140 2019 is the engine big enough thank you



It depends on the weight you want to tow. It should be okay if the caravan has a maximum weight of 1300kg. Anything heavier although no issue on a flat road it may struggle on some hills. What weight are you thinking of towing?


04/7/2022 at 1:35pm
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Personally, with a 1.3 petrol engine I wouldn't want to tow anything bigger than a camping trailer, but that's probably just me. I would think that towing a caravan with such a small petrol engine would seriously affect fuel consumption. Remember that wind drag can affect you as much as simply weight, and the front of a caravan is shaped like a brick. My light caravan (under 1,000kg) has virtually the same frontal area as a big twin-axle caravan, but then I tow it with a 2 litre turbo diesel. Difference in fuel consumption and performance is hardly noticeable.


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Thanks you for all the information not going to buy it now caravan will be 1400kg plus so don't want to ruin a motor I will look for something better thanks to everyone


04/7/2022 at 6:09pm
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In my opinion it is always better to have more power than you need, firstly because of headwinds, hills etc, and secondly because of fuel consumption when towing. It's why we have a 2 litre X Trail pulling a light-weight caravan. Fuel consumption is virtually unaffected. Towing a heavier van with a small engined car, particularly a petrol one, could easily double your fuel consumption.


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Thanks very helpful


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I’ve seen many a car with its bonnet up after trying to get up Telegraph and Haldon hills in Devon towing a caravan. I have also seen many a Police stop and check on caravaners at the bottom of these hills too.
You also have to factor in all the weight of your gear.
We looked at getting a caravan a few years ago ( I have a 1.6 Diesel Citroen Picasso ) and couldn’t get anything that the thing could legally tow from the dealers ( Highbridge ) well anything that you could just about swing a cat in anyway.
Go for a bigger engined car I would say but with fuel at two squid a litre I can see all the reasons for staying putt.


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Totally see what you are saying here, but don't you also need to factor in how often you are towing and how far? For someone that is always on the move what you say makes perfect sense but if someone is likely to maybe stick to one a country a few times a year, as long as the car can tow the caravan legally and reasonably, shouldn't their fuel consumption be focussed on normal driving when not towing? I am thinking of changing cars currently, and this balance is keeping me in a quandary


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Quote: Originally posted by Colin21 on 04/7/2022
Personally, with a 1.3 petrol engine I wouldn't want to tow anything bigger than a camping trailer, but that's probably just me. I would think that towing a caravan with such a small petrol engine would seriously affect fuel consumption. Remember that wind drag can affect you as much as simply weight, and the front of a caravan is shaped like a brick. My light caravan (under 1,000kg) has virtually the same frontal area as a big twin-axle caravan, but then I tow it with a 2 litre turbo diesel. Difference in fuel consumption and performance is hardly noticeable.




Colin its not just you, when i read the header i thought camping trailer too, at a push and if i wasnt going to far or up in the hills then i may consider a folding camper but even then i would be travelling as light as i could.



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Quote: Originally posted by mogktfc on 14/7/2022
Totally see what you are saying here, but don't you also need to factor in how often you are towing and how far? For someone that is always on the move what you say makes perfect sense but if someone is likely to maybe stick to one a country a few times a year, as long as the car can tow the caravan legally and reasonably, shouldn't their fuel consumption be focussed on normal driving when not towing? I am thinking of changing cars currently, and this balance is keeping me in a quandary



Thats a very reasonable stance to take. When you tow 5% and are solo 95%, pick a car that can do the 5% but is optimised for the 95%. If it's the other way round - optimize the other way. I drive and tow with an EV. Its not a perfect tow car (as the range is only up to 130 miles between charges when towing) but is brilliant solo. Last year I drove about 16000 miles, of which just 1600 were towing, and about 550 of those were beyond the range of one charge.



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