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24/7/2022 at 2:07pm
Location: London Outfit: Lunar Cosmos 524
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Quote: Originally posted by The hog on 24/7/2022
So you spent an hour and a quarter recharging on a journey I could do in my diesel without stopping and still have plenty of fuel left!
No thanks.
Likewise!
I regularly do a longer version of the journey from London to Lakes towing my 4 berth caravan with my 7 seat PETROL car, all on a single tank of fuel with about 100 miles of solo driving left in the tank at the end, AND for LESS expense in fuel/energy! Where is the cheap running cost of an EV in the real world?
And I only voluntarily opt to stop on route for maybe 20 minutes, mostly to let the dog stretch her legs and have a wee! Often do it in cold, dark, wet autumn months where use of heater, headlights and wipers are necessary, which would further compromise EV range per charge!
It's an interesting read, and thank you tdrees for that, and demonstrates in a practical way that longer distance towing is possible for EV's, but it's no sales pitch for an EV, and not going to convert me any time soon! Pay MORE in fuel/energy to do an already time consuming journey MUCH slower, I don't think so thank you very much!
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24/7/2022 at 3:20pm
Location: London Outfit: Lunar Cosmos 524
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Quote: Originally posted by 664DaveS on 24/7/2022
Could be difficult if you can't find somewhere to leave the van. Plus it would need to be secured or it might go missing.
I've yet to see charging points at the areas caravans are normally punted to in motorway services, usually the HGV parking area, if you're lucky in a few, a dedicated caravan parking area, and where the charging points are in the main car parking areas, usually right up by the cafe/shop buildings, are normally VERY inaccessible for towing a caravan to. I can only conclude that in most you need to dump the caravan in the HGV/caravan parking area, fully secure it (or risk losing it!) then take the car to the main charging banks for up to an hour - what a faff! Then you've got to try and get back to your caravan in HGV/caravan parking to hitch up again! In many services all that may be impossible as HGV parking is often VERY separate from car parking areas with no access! I've noticed in quite a few services that once you've parked in HGV area, you can't even access the ordinary fuel station, you have vehicular access to HGV fuel station and exit only!
Motorway services are all too often very poorly laid out for the needs of caravaners at the best of times, dealing with an EV's needs as well, doesn't bear thinking about!
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via mobile 24/7/2022 at 3:38pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Monty15 on 24/7/2022
Quote: Originally posted by 664DaveS on 24/7/2022
Could be difficult if you can't find somewhere to leave the van. Plus it would need to be secured or it might go missing.
I've yet to see charging points at the areas caravans are normally punted to in motorway services, usually the HGV parking area, if you're lucky in a few, a dedicated caravan parking area, and where the charging points are in the main car parking areas, usually right up by the cafe/shop buildings, are normally VERY inaccessible for towing a caravan to. I can only conclude that in most you need to dump the caravan in the HGV/caravan parking area, fully secure it (or risk losing it!) then take the car to the main charging banks for up to an hour - what a faff! Then you've got to try and get back to your caravan in HGV/caravan parking to hitch up again! In many services all that may be impossible as HGV parking is often VERY separate from car parking areas with no access! I've noticed in quite a few services that once you've parked in HGV area, you can't even access the ordinary fuel station, you have vehicular access to HGV fuel station and exit only!
Motorway services are all too often very poorly laid out for the needs of caravaners at the best of times, dealing with an EV's needs as well, doesn't bear thinking about!
We have used 3 sets of services. Stone M6 north, Hilton park M6 south and Skelton Lakes in Leeds. Also the area at M1 J29A, but it’s not real a traditional services. No real issues so far, but I did check out the layout on line before using to be sure it would not be a problem. Having dedicated chargers for towing in future would be nice, but it is workable without.
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Quote: Originally posted by Monty15 on 24/7/2022
Quote: Originally posted by The hog on 24/7/2022
So you spent an hour and a quarter recharging on a journey I could do in my diesel without stopping and still have plenty of fuel left!
No thanks.
Likewise!
I regularly do a longer version of the journey from London to Lakes towing my 4 berth caravan with my 7 seat PETROL car, all on a single tank of fuel with about 100 miles of solo driving left in the tank at the end, AND for LESS expense in fuel/energy! Where is the cheap running cost of an EV in the real world?
And I only voluntarily opt to stop on route for maybe 20 minutes, mostly to let the dog stretch her legs and have a wee! Often do it in cold, dark, wet autumn months where use of heater, headlights and wipers are necessary, which would further compromise EV range per charge!
It's an interesting read, and thank you tdrees for that, and demonstrates in a practical way that longer distance towing is possible for EV's, but it's no sales pitch for an EV, and not going to convert me any time soon! Pay MORE in fuel/energy to do an already time consuming journey MUCH slower, I don't think so thank you very much!
The towing costs equate to about 41MPG. If you are bettering that with a petrol, then there is clearly no saving. Over all, the time loss was about 30 mins compared to how we would have towed before. Not everyone’s cup of tea, I grant you. Some like to tow for 5 hours straight with out a break. On the few occasions I have done that, I hated it…
But I agree, it’s more about what can be done. I chose a car that I would love solo, and could also do my towing, given that I drive about 90% solo and 10% towing. Being able to use an EV for my tow, gives me choice about the rest of the time.
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