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14/10/2005 at 5:01pm
 Location: Shropshire North Wales borders
 Outfit: Adria Win
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Check the handbook for your car, as I said earlier the noseweight limit on the Accord I had was 50 Kgs and you should never exceed the manufacturers' guidelines.

I would say 30 - 35 is definitely too low, get it up to 50 if that is the limit for your car. The back of the caravan should only have light stuff loaded in it, move things forward to over the axle. If it is small stuff that you are piling in the bathroom, how about getting a couple of the collapsible crates to put it in over the axle for travelling?

Use the jockey wheel for raising the nose of the caravan to hook up. I'd never be able to lift mine!

My Accord did seem to be a little low at the back when towing, although it towed very well and never snaked. I looked into the idea of beefing up the suspension with those doughnut things that you can get but was told they wouldn't work on an Accord and I would have to get new suspension. I never got round to it before changing the car.



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14/10/2005 at 5:46pm
 Location: Oldham
 Outfit: Burstner S500TS Nissan Patrol 3.0 SVE
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Quote: Originally posted by Elmer+Jackie on 14/10/2005

7 % of 1200 KG (estimated loaded weight...) gives me 84 KG??? How the hell am I supposed to lift that on to the towhook? Get a forklift??? How do you get it on the tow hook? Lift it with the nose wheel and slowly lower it?


You need also to check the maximum noseweight for your towcar.  84kg is higher than many.

Yes, lifting the nose using the jockey wheel and then reversing the car accurately is exactly what I and, I think, many others do.

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Andrew

 

 



14/10/2005 at 5:53pm
 Location: Oldham
 Outfit: Burstner S500TS Nissan Patrol 3.0 SVE
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Quote: Originally posted by Elmer+Jackie on 14/10/2005

Next time I'll load it up and drag the bathroomscales outdoors and check what the weight actually is.


If you have any axle stands, the easy way to measure the noseweight is to put an axle stand on the bathroom scales then zero the reading.   Make sure that the top of the stand is about the recommended height for the towball - usually 16ins - 17ins and then lower the hitch onto the axle stand.

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14/10/2005 at 6:01pm
 Location: NW of Glasgow
 Outfit: Sterling Searcher 2008 Volvo XC90
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I think you need to take a hard look at how you are packing the van.   Why are you piling stuff in the washroom and on the beds?  The stuff you use in the van ( clothes,food, dishes, bedding, etc ) should be stashed in their designated lockers. That way the van is ready for immediate use en route and when you arrive.

 Lightweight bulky items like the wastemaster and lightweight folding chairs , can go in the front locker, but consider carrying your spare wheel under the van ( if you don't already ) or your noseweight may get too high . If you use an awning then it can lie on the floor over the axle as long as it does not take you over your MTPLM.

Other heavy stuff like wheel clamp, hitchlock, BBQ, microwave ( if you take one), heavier chairs and table etc etc, should go in the car.

If, when you use the correct noseweight for your car, the car's nose is pointing up in the air, you could consider fitting some type of suspension aid or self levelling thingy ( sorry , don't know the technical term!)



15/10/2005 at 7:09am
 Location: Pink Panther Country (Co Durham)
 Outfit: Avondale perle argos supreme
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As regards the second hand hitch there should be no problem buying one, if the wear indicator shows the pads are ok then u should be alright.
If it needs a change of pads it will probably still be cheaper than buying a new one.


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15/10/2005 at 8:08am
 Location: Newcastle u Lyme
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The friction pads for the AKS 2004 as shown in Michael's picture are £21.29 for the side pads and £21.29 for the frontand back pads (both) so you are loking at £42+ if new pads are needed although as they are supposed to do about 30,000 miles this is unlikely!!!

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15/10/2005 at 1:02pm
 Location: Poole Nantwich Cheshire
 Outfit: Elddis Crusader - Range Rover
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yes that (Heidi) is one of our dogs.

both our dogs always come with us, and have passports so also come abroad.

They are part of the family, but are NOT so big or heavy as yours !

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17/10/2005 at 12:32pm
 Location: Sudbury Suffolk
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Hi all,

Everybody thanks a lot for all the advice. We are getting a stabilizer and we will look into packing the van a bit more structured. I've also got new wheels and tires for the caravan which I will get balanced and aligned properly. This should sort out our problems. Again thanks to everyone and keep vanning!

Cheerio, Elmer & Jackie.

 



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19/10/2005 at 8:00am
 Location: Cumbria
 Outfit: Fleetwood Sonata Prelude Audi A6
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 We broke down on our last trip at the weekend(overheating). The aa bloke put on the alko towball for the van. He told me that he found the alko one the best out of the lot, and he would have more experience than most of us as he is one of them that recovers vans and cars mainly. The wife tows, and she had problems with the spring loaded types we had before but the alko is just like a normal hitch.

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19/10/2005 at 8:15am
 Location: Birmingham
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Has anyone on here used a hitch-type stabiliser and then gone back to a leaf-typre one?

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19/10/2005 at 8:46am
 Location: Newcastle u Lyme
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Hi Paul I've used the Alko and the Straightliner together but after contacting Alko they advised against "as it puts too much strain on the towball"

I wasn't convinced but as they said don't use both I had no option but to comply.

The difference with and without Straightliner was so marginal as to be not worth the extra effort of fitting the straightliner 

The thing that has made the biggest difference to the feel of the outfit has been moving the 110amp hour battery (4st 3lb) from the extreme rear corner of the van to a central position as far forward as possible under the fixed bed.(proper  vented and secured battery box!!)

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