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24/4/2006 at 1:24pm
 Location: Stratford Warwickshire
 Outfit: Eccles 640 - BMW 520D Tourer
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Just to point out to Vectratot that I'm not quite that irresponsible about towing a heavy van. The max technical mass of my van was 1550Kg - that's with a load of 300Kg. The Freelander weighed in at 1691Kg so even fully laden (which I never am) I would be running at 91%. Well within the cababilities of the car (2000Kg towing limit) and me as a driver. I've never had any stability problems because of the weight - and am not complaining about MPG when I'm towing - it's an accepted part of going on holiday.

On a separate note.

No-one will ever convince me that loosing 10 to 15 MPG on a 500 mile trip is environmentally worse than jumping in a jet for 4000 miles to Tenerife and back.

Camping and caravanning must be one of the more environmentally friendly (except maybe for walking or cycling holidays) ways of going on holiday.

Consider how much less water, electricity and gas you use in a van or tent compared to what you use at home. 2 flushes of the loo at home is probably equal to your entire daily consumption of water in the van.



24/4/2006 at 1:31pm
 Location: Blackburn Lancashire
 Outfit: Compass Echo 340
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The enironmentally friendly partt of carvanning had niot crossed my mind - and I'm usually very ecologically aware.
Thanks for that. Useful to remember during the odd argument!

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Range Rover Vogue SE LPG TAZ


24/4/2006 at 2:17pm
 Location: Worcestershire
 Outfit: Buccaneer Cruiser
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Whether you tow with a Mini or a great big 4 x 4, if you caravan you are keeping a lot of people in jobs and you are a boon to the local economy whereever you visit and you keep jobs going in that area.

If Gordon Brown forced us off the road, the consequences to a lot of small towns woGld be disastrous! That person wih the great big caravan and 4 x 4 could have 4 kids in tow who all want to spend the parents hard earned cash.



24/4/2006 at 10:43pm
 Location: Poole Nantwich Cheshire
 Outfit: Elddis Crusader - Range Rover
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Beware of safety features, seen the fifth gear or top gear safety tests!!! one wouldn't walk away from a land rover crash!!!

Mr P

We use Rosemarie's Touareg, which is rated 5 by NCAP - as good as it gets.

We have towed caravans and VERY heavy horse trailers for years, with many different vehicles (4 Discovery's in all + Volvo's) and find the Touareg the best that we have ever used, including a Range Rover.

4wd, with snow tyres, also comes in very handy in Austria in the winter.

Michael



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25/4/2006 at 11:13am
 Location: Nottingham
 Outfit:  Swift Freestyle S2
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I love my Skoda Octavia and my lightweight 1991 Swift. You have probably seen me passing you on the motorway at high speed. LOL

THAT IS A JOKE BEFORE ANYONE STARTS ON ME.

Its still a free country (sort of) and we are entitled to buy what we want. Long live freedom of choice.

Regards Robin



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25/4/2006 at 2:44pm
 Location: little lever Bolton
 Outfit: elddis + passat
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Quote: Originally posted by Michael Bird on 24/4/2006

Beware of safety features, seen the fifth gear or top gear safety tests!!! one wouldn't walk away from a land rover crash!!!

Mr P

We use Rosemarie's Touareg, which is rated 5 by NCAP - as good as it gets.

We have towed caravans and VERY heavy horse trailers for years, with many different vehicles (4 Discovery's in all + Volvo's) and find the Touareg the best that we have ever used, including a Range Rover.

4wd, with snow tyres, also comes in very handy in Austria in the winter.

Michael


and it should be the best for the money they ask for them


25/4/2006 at 9:41pm
 Location: Poole Nantwich Cheshire
 Outfit: Elddis Crusader - Range Rover
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campobolton,  yes it should, but you get what you pay for, and there are plenty that are more expensive.

I think you you have got it right Robin.

Michael



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26/4/2006 at 11:26pm
 Location: DURHAM
 Outfit: Mondeo TItanium 140 Avondale Mayfly 25
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Sorry not to agree with you madfrank but I suggest you check out Parkers .co.uk The TD4 has a kerb weight (according to them) 0f 1619kg (not 1691kg) and giving an 85% at 1376kg and with your van being at 1550kg I think it works out higher than 91%


08/5/2006 at 1:31am
 Location: york
 Outfit: Pajero Bailey 500 4
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you are missing out get a 4x4

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08/5/2006 at 5:54am
 Location: Humberside
 Outfit:  Swift Elegance 565
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I will take it seriously when the politicians do and start practicing what they preach!!!!!!!!!!!!! Meanwhile I like the view from up here when towing.

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