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Subject Topic: Enquiry about problem Mondeos Post Reply Post New Topic
04/10/2006 at 7:40am
 Location: warwickshire
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Hi

We have a Mondeo Estate 2 ltr tdci.  It is an 03 plate with 75000 miles on the clock.  Over the last month we have driven this car about 1 day.  The rest of the time it has been in the garage having major repairs. 

1.    New clutch.  Very smelly.  Turns out the mass flywheel was going.  £700 to replace.

2.    Over the past eighteen months we have had problems with the car cutting out.  It has been back to ford about three times, been through diagnostics and the have put in various sensors.  This would keep it going for a while until it started again.  Then about a month ago we had it serviced.  The fuel filter needed changing at this service and because they needed to de pressurize the fuel pump, it turns out that the fuel pump was the cause of all the cutting out problems.  Then the fuel injectors went and now it has something wrong with the cylinders.

Has anyone else had major problems with their mondeos.  So far we have spent £2500 on it!!!!!!

And the maddening thing is, it went out of warranty in may this year

Thanks

 

 



04/10/2006 at 2:36pm
 Location: N Yorkshire
 Outfit: Xc60 D5 Abbey Vogue
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we had the clutch and dm flywheel done as a precaution a few months ago, £450.other than that its been fine.we have the tddi version,less electronics to go wrong.

these faults you have are common on the tdci.Ford usually do a software upgrade to sort the cutting out gremlins but i have heard of others with fuel pump and injector problems.

have a look here for more info.

http://fordmondeo.org/forum



04/10/2006 at 4:23pm
 Location: Lancashire
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I would take up the issue with for ref the dm flywheel.

A mate of mine has a chain of garages and he says that the dm on a transit only last around 60k. On this type of vehicle that's a huge problem as they can do that milage a year i think ford may have a serious issue with this i would push  the warranty good will gesture and see were it gets you.

 

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04/10/2006 at 4:55pm
 Location: Redcar
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Bought a tddi, in 3 weeks of ownership the problems we had were :

Rear suspension bushes knackered,

Front Suspension Strutt worked loose and almost detached itself from the housing,

Camchain oil seal blew,

Bonnet alarm switch sensor failed so the alarm wouldnt stop going off,

Rear Bootlid servo failed so the boot wouldnt shut,

All these problems were fixed by the garage and very grateful I am to them too. If they hadnt just been bought out by Reg Vardy I'd definately go back. But as they have been bought by Vardys I will never step foot in there again. Dont ask why, its a long, costly and stressful story.



05/10/2006 at 9:12am
 Location: Derbyshire
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Hi 1twen1

Sorry to hear about your problems but surely if all these items failed within three weeks I certainly hope the car was not sold with a full MOT. The first two items would have been a definite failure.

I have a TDCi and yes DM Flywheel failure is a known problem as are rear suspension bushes. The serious one to watch out for is flaking paint along the inner edges of the doors. Should you encounter this and the paint section of your warranty booklet has not been stamped then your 12 year body warranty is invalid and Ford will leave you high and dry

Regards

John


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05/10/2006 at 12:32pm
 Location: Northamptonshire
 Outfit: Sterling Vitesse 500L & Mondeo TDCi
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A common problem regarding the TDCi cutting out is a faulty cam position sensor. Mine failed completely about a month ago, after being an intermittent fault for the previous 2-3 months. The very nice man from RAC diagnosed it for me, saving the expense of a trip to the main dealer. Cost to replace? £14. This problem also affected the Focus TDCi too.


21/7/2007 at 4:15pm
 Location: Leeds
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How do you know when the flywheel is faulty? Does it give warning before packing in completely?

I have a y reg ( new shape) 2.0 l petrol Mondeo. It seems the clutch slips but not as Ive known clutches slip before. It kind of slips slightly for a second or so after changing gear and then its ok. Its wierd to describe but feels like driving an automatic.

Does this mean that my clutch/ flywheel is on the way out?

Thanks

Mark



23/7/2007 at 8:20pm
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The best thing to do with a DMF is throw it in the bin. You can get a kit for about £200 that includes a proper flywheel and a matching clutch.


23/7/2007 at 10:17pm
 Location: Leeds
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Hi Richard,

Whats a DMF? ( i figured F is flywhel) Where are these £200 kits? I was quoted £350 for clutch and flywheel.

Thanks

Mark



24/7/2007 at 9:24am
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DMF is Dual Mass Flywheel. This post on a Peugeot Citroen forum explains it quite well- and alarmingly.

Quote: It's not the clutch that's at fault, it's the flywheel, as you note - the clutch is standard. The flywheel's dual-mass - this means that instead of being machined out of one solid piece of cast iron, it's made out of two different metals, bonded together with a rubber sandwich. I think this is supposed to help damp out vibrations as the drive is taken up. However, similar to the rubber bonded crankshaft pulley, they eventually fall apart. When this happens, the central part stays bolted to the crank shaft, whilst the outer part exits stage left via the bellhousing and usually the radiator, and probably smashing the input shaft as well. Cue new clutch, flywheel, radiator and exchange gearbox. However, there does appear to be a warning, and that is a small squeak heard on starting and stopping the engine, and possibly on taking up the drive. So you probably end up replacing the clutch long before it's really worn out, since you need to replace the flywheel as its debonding. DM flywheels are expensinve though - £300 + - alhough I believe LUK do a replacement clutch / flywheel kit with a solid flywheel. In the event of clutch replacement because it is worn out, the DM flywheel should be replaced as a matter of course. Typical life seems to be in the range 75-100k - same as the crank pulley!

Here is the link to the kit. This should be available at most car part suppliers and I've heard the kit for the Peugeot engine is £212 + VAT.
Solid flywheel kit

I've a feeling the Mondeo engine is actually a Peugeot unit but I'd be surprised if a kit wasn't available for Ford anyway.


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11/8/2007 at 1:34am
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my tddi 2 litre on a y plate has 112000 miles it had a new rear subframe (£125 on ebay) for the mot plus £20 for 4 wheel alignment. Ford wanted £400 for new bushes and fitting cos they have to glue the new bushes into the subframe; other than it has been a faultless workhorse. Clutch wear is down to driver habits; ie riding the clutch etc my only gripe is i wish i had the 130hp version



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