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Subject Topic: bio grade diesel Post Reply Post New Topic
05/10/2006 at 7:09pm
 Location: greater manchester
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okay  folks can anyone offer advice on this product ,,,,,,,,, i seen it on fitth gear programe last week a mercedes 250d  running on cooking oil ???????  am i right in thinking any derv car can do this or would i need to change filters and do anything else  your help would be good

 

 

 p.s dont tell GORDON BROWN at no 11 downing street

 

 

 

 



05/10/2006 at 7:16pm
 Location: Derby
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Its actually legal if you pay the tax on it!!!

I think many can but you have to do a mix of diesel and oil 50/50 at most I think. Google it bet you get some helpful website and remember to pay your tax on it!!!



05/10/2006 at 7:37pm
 Location: Derbyshire
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Running off chip fat

this is a link to an earlier conversation about chip fat you may find useful ....if the link works........



05/10/2006 at 8:10pm
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Been running my 96 Disco on recycled chip fat for 6 months now. Will never go back to dino diesel.Only problem is everytime I start it up I get the urge for fish and chips   

some wb sites on bio diesel
http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/forum/index.php
http://www.dieselveg.com/
http://www.smartveg.com/
http://www.biofuel-uk.net/forum/index.php
http://www.ecobiodiesel.co.uk/

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05/10/2006 at 10:44pm
 Location: Wales
 Outfit: Cabanon Andorra
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Hi hgv driver - I was really interested in running car off chip fat too after watching that programme - think it is madness to be charged VAT on something that VAT has already been paid on though - this stuff would be going in a landfill otherwise!!

On another note my hubbie is thinking of changing jobs and becoming hgv driver would you recommend it or give it a wide berth?



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06/10/2006 at 9:58pm
 Location: greater manchester
 Outfit: elldiss typoon xli
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dont do it unless you get a good low hours well paid job and home everynight unless he wants to work 90 hours a week


06/10/2006 at 10:15pm
 Location: Wales
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thanks for reply (well sort of thanks - not exactly what we wanted to hear - 90 hours sounds a bit too much to do!)

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07/10/2006 at 7:38am
 Location: CANNOCK STAFFORDSHIRE.
 Outfit: SWIFT CHALLANGER 520 5TA PEUGEOT 406H
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Hi hgv if you have got a newish car or 4x4 donot put any chip oil or bioderv in or you could end up having to by a new engine.I run a T reg 406td 2.1hdi and was told by the dealers not to use it,has it clogs up the engine managment system.


07/10/2006 at 8:10am
 Location: Newcastle u Lyme
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That conjures up pictures of oil actually passing through the electronic components

Not a pretty sight



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07/10/2006 at 11:32am
 Location: Wolverhampton
 Outfit: Romahome C15
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If you go to the actual mfrs of the engines you will find that most diesel cars will take veg.oil certain mfrs have this is mind when making, others it is a matter of changing the filters. The dealership are not up to date with this. read up on biodiesel and you will find all the info you require. My 99 C15 is running lovely on a 50/50 mix. my son runs his peugot van completely on veg oil, plus his rover 45 W reg. no problems and has been doing so for a long time.

Hope no C & E are out there reading these threads!

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07/10/2006 at 1:21pm
 Location: None Entered
 Outfit: Swift Challenger Sport 524 VW Carave
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The handbook for my VW Touran details the use of RME fuel (biodiesel).  This says it must correspond to DIN EN 590 and have a cetane number of at least 51.  The cetane number indicates the ignition quality.

It says RME fuels can damage fuel systems in vehicles not suitable for it, and says to only use such fuels which are DIN EN 14214(FAME) compliant.    Also, if you plan not to use vehicle for approx. 2 weeks, fill with diesel and drive approx. 50 km. to prevent damage to fuel injection system.

Also, performance may be slightly lower, and fuel consumption slightly higher.

Seems hardly worth all the attendant risks.  I'll stick coventional diesel.

Bertie.



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07/10/2006 at 1:38pm
 Location: KENT
 Outfit:  BAILEY PEGASUS 534 DIESEL HONDA CRV
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Sorry, but if it is so good, why are there so many companies blasting away cash in order to come up with reliable engine compliant bio-diesels?  Chip fat? - 'aving a larff aren't they?

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10/10/2006 at 6:07pm
 Location: Daventry Northamptonshire
 Outfit: swift challenger
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I ran my 94 shogun on almost pure like 75/25 pure veg oil from tesco for 6 of the warmer months and 50 50 during winter with no problems just stinks a bit thats all, Not sure how the vat works as surely that means its paid twice???


10/10/2006 at 7:58pm
 Location: bournemouth
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Have been using for some-time, No problems 100% in Summer
Winter 50/50,Change Filter at normal interval,s,It is
freely available on Continent I-e Germany-France at all
filling stations,I pay 70p a Litre, but the GOVERMENT will
soon clamp down I expect, Also EMISSIONS are lower,

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I assume that the thread titled Bio-Diesel which has just been terminated and that I asked a question on, has been closed because of this similar one.

It would have been a good idea and helpful to me if words to that effect were posted on here!

Thank you.



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11/10/2006 at 12:41am
 Location: Prestatyn Clwyd
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Hi, I was running our Peugeot 406 1.9td on a 50/50 mix of veg oil and diesel. The veg oil was costing me 1.50 for 3 litre. I made no modifications to the car, just put 12 litres of diesel in and 12 litre of veg oil. The car loved it, ran quieter, smoother and better on performance and economy. The down side is you have to register and obtain a license as a fuel producer then pay the excise duty on the oil you use. Also you have to pay VAT on the veg oil because you have changed its use from food stuff to fuel. By the time you’ve paid the duty and VAT it was costing more than buying Diesel at the pump, unless you lied about how much Veg oil you were using and we wouln't do that would we. I no longer use veg oil now I only use diesel and have de registered. However if you are prepared to use used cooking oil from your local chippy and filter it then you can make savings, but I can’t be bothered with all the filtering etc.
Dave.



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