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What's wrong with your airbed?
Is it a cheap pvc thing or better made one 6" deep with a flock surface?
You say you're using 2 single airbeds, it may be too narrow for you.
Actually I have a good quality double air bed, used once that I want to dispose of, but you'll need a pump.
Self inflatiing mats are amazing but tend to be narrow and may not be your thing, go to a camping shop in shorts with keys in your pocket and consider the SIM you can't feel your keys on. You can actually get double SIMS.
Also look at the camp beds, a camp bed may be your thing.
The higher your tent the more ground space you'll have but the more damage your tent will take in windy conditions. A cheap tent marked Showerproof at you local supermarket will leak and tend to blow down easily, unknow Chinese brands of tent are best avoided so look at quality British brands, I tend to buy Vango, they have experience of making mountaineering tents so their family summer camping tents are usually ok.
A massive tunnel tent, the size of a garage, pitched sideways to the wind will take a lot of damage in a storm, the glass fibre poles will gradually shred and split.
I've never used an airbeam tent, they're not my thing, consider one before declining on the concept.
Compliment your BBQ with a small camping gas stove, don't get one of those small suitcase stoves they're awful. If you intend to go to France get a Campingaz stove with disposable gas cans, but you have to buy the gas in France as gas isn't allowed in cars on ferries.
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Quote: Originally posted by marg6 on 15/9/2024
lol the wrong tent then! yeah you sure did, you need to go shopping for a proper tent, but if there are any other tents on your camp site go and take a look at them, ask the owners what they like/dislike about their tent.
you need to get a tent with the highest hydrostatic number possible, under 3000mm is a waste of time for the uk. self inflating mats are fine, as long as you are up off the floor so you need a campbed too. and decent sleeping bags 4 season ones.
cooking get done on a stove, bbqs are not really up to being your only source of cooking, 2 burners, and something to put the stove on up off the ground. and then you need a windbreaker or a porch awning with the doors wide open for ventilation.
that set up you have hired i would only be thinking about letting the kids in in the back garden, i wouldnt be intending to use it for proper camping
Yup, I nearly cried when I saw the size of it! Well if we survived a night and a half in that, I think we should be grand in a bigger tent!
I did look at all the other with envy, didn't get a chance to speak to anyone else as it was raining and I was fed up. Thank you, daft question but what would you put the stove on?
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Quote: Originally posted by Bramston on 15/9/2024
What's wrong with your airbed?
Is it a cheap pvc thing or better made one 6" deep with a flock surface?
You say you're using 2 single airbeds, it may be too narrow for you.
Actually I have a good quality double air bed, used once that I want to dispose of, but you'll need a pump.
Self inflatiing mats are amazing but tend to be narrow and may not be your thing, go to a camping shop in shorts with keys in your pocket and consider the SIM you can't feel your keys on. You can actually get double SIMS.
Also look at the camp beds, a camp bed may be your thing.
The higher your tent the more ground space you'll have but the more damage your tent will take in windy conditions. A cheap tent marked Showerproof at you local supermarket will leak and tend to blow down easily, unknow Chinese brands of tent are best avoided so look at quality British brands, I tend to buy Vango, they have experience of making mountaineering tents so their family summer camping tents are usually ok.
A massive tunnel tent, the size of a garage, pitched sideways to the wind will take a lot of damage in a storm, the glass fibre poles will gradually shred and split.
I've never used an airbeam tent, they're not my thing, consider one before declining on the concept.
Compliment your BBQ with a small camping gas stove, don't get one of those small suitcase stoves they're awful. If you intend to go to France get a Campingaz stove with disposable gas cans, but you have to buy the gas in France as gas isn't allowed in cars on ferries.
The air bed itself wasn't too bad, I think it was maybe more being so close to the ground, having no room to move and not being able to stand, did a number on my already weak back. So I think a camp bed may be more suitable!
I'll have a look at vango and a stove, thanks for your help.
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15/9/2024 at 9:24pm
Location: Devizes Wiltshire Outfit: MWB VW Crafter PVC
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I started camping in 2007 to attend car rallies and got the camping bug.
The first tent was a basic 3-people tent which was just about to fit a double airbed inside for 2 people.
Hardly any room for storage let alone standing up!
Since then, my gear list had evolved over the years, and was very happy with my last set up before I changed unit to a van due to declining health and physical strength.
The tent was a cotton canvas Dutch Pyramid, an ESVO Bedouin 340, which was a 4-berth tent with an inner tent, with a standing height living area, a canopy outside where I could set up my camp kitchen, expendable with a vario awning and side panels, for just me and the dog.
The inner tent could accommodate a single camp bed with a SIM on top (very comfortable) width wise, plus an elevated dog bed on the side.
For cooking, I used a Coleman Dual Fuel 2-burner stove (I loved that stove) which worked well in winter, as I found out butane did not burn well at sub-zero temperature the hard way when I camped over the New Year weekend in late December 2009.
After the first trip in 2007, I decided to camp with EHU so that I could run a thermo-electric cool box to keep perishable food like milk, cream and meats etc...
With EHU, I carried and used a 2kW kettle and a 2kW fan heater, and had only made the mistake of using both at the same time and tripped the EHU just the once!
I personally would advoid cooking inside a tent's extension/living area with a naked flame. However, I would consider using an induction hob inside a tent, and would probably get the 2-burner induction hob by Vango which is rated at 1.6kW combined (800W per burner).
Summary of the gears I would recommend:
- A 4-berth tent with a standing height living area, extendable with an extension if possible for cooking etc.
- Coleman 424 2-burner Dual Fuel Stove if naked flame is preferred/practical
- Vango double induction hob
- A roller EHU kit with USB sockets
- A 10m+ EHU extension as a roller unit only comes with 15m cable and some sites advise at least 25m would be necessary
- Outwell Posadas or Kampa Dream camp bed
- A 5cm SIM if using on top of a camp bed, or thicker if using on its own
- A 2kW maximum fan heater
- A 2kW maximum kettle
- Tefal's space-saving Ingenio pans that are induction-ready (their cheapest line is not induction-ready, if an induction hob is to be used)
The above is based on my personal experience and preferences, and it may not suit everyone's needs and wants out of camping.
However, I hope it helps in some ways, good luck!
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17/9/2024 at 12:20pm
Location: London Outfit: Lunar Cosmos 524
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On the Newhaven-Dieppe route, the DFDS terms of travel do not inherently ban gas cylinders in cars in the terms, they certainly do for fuel cans though, but request you notify in advance you are carrying them. That doesn't of course mean they will agree to transport, they may well refuse, BUT they are not stated in terms as prohibited outright.
When we camp abroad, we take a 3-way gas fridge, and have used a variety of cylinder fed gas cookers, including a two burner plus oven Kampa Roast Master, they NEED a large gas cylinder, disposable cartridges just aren't going to suit, even if we rigged up suitable adaptors! - we'd go through cartridges at an alarming rate! Mate had a disposable cartridge version 3-way fridge, it went through cartridges at around one a day! - My fridge is a higher performance one than that, it'd eat cartridges at a ridiculous rate! We go mob handed, and catering is done for up to 10 or 12 people, we can't be cooking on 'back packing' stoves!
If DFDS won't allow us to take gas cylinders, then they CERTAINLY won't get our business!
Brittany allows up to 5L of Petrol/Diesel in a proper container. LPG can be up to 3 cylinders and/or 47Kg total, so long as secured from movement - absolutely no mention of MH/Camper/Caravan being only vehicles permitted to transport in T and Cs!
All a bit off OP subject, but does demonstrate that traps await the unwary camper, especially on foreign trips!
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