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Quote: Originally posted by spudz on 30/5/2008Just to continue waving the reg rag to the bull!

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Might this be a good moment for anyone considering a new canvas tent purchase to look at the Dutch shops that are still selling quality cotton canvas tents?

I bought my ESVO 4 man on-line from the manufacturer and paid less than an equivalent Cabanon.
Also, I've just received my Hypercamp polycotton tarp, again bought on-line. The quality of workmanship and material is 1st class, even the bag for the poles is a quality item.

Perhaps it's time to look elsewhere if Cabanon are no longer offering the quality you want?

Quote: Originally posted by johnwils on 30/5/2008

The new Satellite Cabanon is cotton, we nearly bought one from camping intenational recently. Went to the counter enquired about the sun canopy and there isn't one to go with the tent, we always buy the canopy, suppose I could try to make one (would need you here Rex) Fab tent though.

Helen

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Quote: Originally posted by rexgrant on 30/5/2008

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Quote: Originally posted by Brainhertz on 30/5/2008

Some interesting statements there, Rex

"Cotton canvas looked after will last 25 to 30 years before it will need a reproof, and then go on for a few more years."

My experience of cotton frame tents has been more like 5 to 6 years and that's just 3 weeks a year.

"This is provided the tent as not been left for long periods erected and open to attack by Ultra Violet Rays.

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But erected for two weeks at a time say six times a year it will last for at least 20 years before a reproof is required."

Crickey!! - you do a lot of camping. I wouldn't call six trips of two weeks each normal usage - that's nearly 3 months! I would expect to reproof every 2 -3 years at that rate.

I have to confess that I have sold my sole to the devil and swapped my cotton frame for an Outwell PollyCotton. I have to say I can see very little difference between the two fabrics. The feel is the same and I have found no evidence that the Pollycotton doesn't 'breathe' as well. The only noticeable difference comes after prolonged rainfall when the cotton turns a darker colour as the water is absorbed. I know the cotton part of the pollycotton is supposed to do this - but I haven't noticed it. Maybe Cabanon have changed because they think POllyCotton is better (red rag to a bull?).

Will PollyCotton last as long as 20 - 30 years? They haven't been around long enough to find out but mine is now just over a year old, been on 3 trips and looks as good as new.   After 10 years I'll be ready for a change.

No doubt the debate will go on for a while yet.

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Brainhertz (clique of 1)

Hi brainhertz
May I suggest you research the expected life of cotton Duck, just one of the good cotton canvases. I only read the first few lines of your comment.
Regards
Rex.

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we were in the netherlands at easter and went to this camping shop, it was huge and sold everything including canvas tents of all sizes ,

http://www.de-wit.nl/

i have never seen so many tents on display before and folding campers ,you could have spent the day there.

they may do mail order.

Quote: Originally posted by nora on 31/5/2008

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we were in the netherlands at easter and went to this camping shop, it was huge and sold everything including canvas tents of all sizes ,

http://www.de-wit.nl/

i have never seen so many tents on display before and folding campers ,you could have spent the day there.

they may do mail order.

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Quote: Originally posted by nora on 31/5/2008

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we were in the netherlands at easter and went to this camping shop, it was huge and sold everything including canvas tents of all sizes ,

http://www.de-wit.nl/

i have never seen so many tents on display before and folding campers ,you could have spent the day there.

they may do mail order.

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Quote: Originally posted by spudz on 31/5/2008

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Rex,

My new ESVO is 100%, 320grm cotton canvas, pyramid design with steel poles. It looks like this.
ESVO have been making quality equipment since 1922, I think they've a proven track record.

Now all I need is for it to stop raining here, 16 days non-stop now, bloody awful weather.


I fear La Nina is affecting our weather in the negative, much to the dispare of eager campers.

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Quote: Originally posted by ianork on 31/5/2008

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Is the 2008 Cabernon Guadeloupe 4 still 100% cotton?

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