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08/5/2009 at 6:28pm
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Even though the days are lovely and warm, it is still surprisingly cold at night, even down here in the sunny south. I went out into the garden with the dogs at about 10.30 last night and thought "Brrr...., glad I'm not camping".

A really good sleeping bag will make a lot of difference, especially if you take hot water bottles and put them in the bags before you go to bed, so you get into a warm bed. Insulation under the air bed is essntial, we use newspaper, very cheap, takes up next to no room and you can recycle it instead of bringing it home. Lots of cheap fleece blankets under your sleeping bag will help too.

We also have the dogs snuggling up with us, that way we all help keep each other warm.

A tent with a SIG, or the flaps that you peg under a footprint groundsheet, will cut out a lot of the draughts. I agree about taking your Pro-Action back - that's what we did with the one we bought - it only lasted 9 days!

The noise of the weather can really be a pain if you're a light sleeper. I enjoy the sound of rain, and find it soothing, but the wind bugs me so I wear ear plugs at night. This also means the birds (and babies!) don't wake me at dawn.

Give it another go in better weather. I'm sure you'll love it. Once you've got the bug, the weather doesn't bother you quite as much.

 



08/5/2009 at 6:30pm
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Hi Pink , if you bought your tent new from argos, take it back , tell them it leaks and get a refund , they are very good with returns, but you will have to dry it before taking it back.

you were right not to leave the heater on all night, no gas heaters should be left on all night. Fan heater is different.

with a tent with a sig and carpet , and a picnic rug on top of the airbed , a decent sleeping bag and a fleece blanket inside it, you will see a world of difference. I camped the last 2 weekends with a tent full of toddlers too, 3 granddaughters 2, 3, and 4 , and none of us were cold at night. I like a hot water bottle too, but nobody else wanted one.
A warm bed is the only way you will enjoy camping, get that right and you will be fine .



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08/5/2009 at 6:41pm
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Quote: Originally posted by beefysmum on 08/5/2009


Hi Pink , if you bought your tent new from argos, take it back , tell them it leaks and get a refund , they are very good with returns, but you will have to dry it before taking it back.

you were right not to leave the heater on all night, no gas heaters should be left on all night. Fan heater is different.

with a tent with a sig and carpet , and a picnic rug on top of the airbed , a decent sleeping bag and a fleece blanket inside it, you will see a world of difference. I camped the last 2 weekends with a tent full of toddlers too, 3 granddaughters 2, 3, and 4 , and none of us were cold at night. I like a hot water bottle too, but nobody else wanted one.
A warm bed is the only way you will enjoy camping, get that right and you will be fine .


All of the above. Yes, take it back.  Plus I will stress that you must NEVER leave gas heaters on in a tent overnight. Quite apart from the fire risk, gas appliances can malfunction and give out carbon monoxide. Now with the amount of ventilation your tent seemed to have this might not be an issue but better safe than sorry.

It seems though that you like the camping, it's just the equipment that's letting you down. The two things you should not skimp on are your tent and your sleeping bags. The Vango Icharus has ben mentioned...it's turning out to be this year's top favourite amongst the smaller tents, so well worth looking at it. It has a SIG too.

As for bags Vango, Coleman and Outwell do very good ones. Look for 3-season bags. I can recommend the Vango Nitestar range and they do square ended ones as well as mummy ones. Get a pile of cheap fleece blankets for between you and the airbed (held on by a fitted sheet) plus some over you if it's really cold.

The dogs will need some insulation too.If they're in the pod with you then put some cheap cellular foam mats on the floor for them to sleep on. They'll freeze on a bare groundsheet. Donate them your old sleeping bags you buy new ones...they'll pack up smaller than a quilt.



08/5/2009 at 7:01pm
 Location: East Sussex
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The other great thing for dogs is vetbed fleece. It's warm and squishy, so keeps them comfy as well as warm, and it wicks moisture away from the surface, so is great if they're a bit damp, as it helps them get dry. It dries really quickly, and is machine washable, which is why they use it in vets.

You can buy it online, either rolls that you cut to the size you want or sheets. It doens't roll up very small, but you can spread it out in the boot and pack stuff on top.



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Don't be put off so easily Pink OK you were cold but it was only April too early for you we are all different I had 8 days at Easter and loved it and that was cold! However like yourself I remember that I was really looking forward to my first camping trip and guess what I hated it it was another one of them 'never again' jobs I left afteronly two nights and I had booked for a week.  Then we had a nice summer and on a whim I went again and this time I knew exactly what to expect and you know what I loved every minute! that was 10 years ago and now I am thinking about buying my 4th tent and don't want any other type of hols..You have had a disapointment after having so many expectations and you were probably a bit stressed after buying all the gear and wanting so badly for it to be perfect, You have now got all your gear just leave it for a while and you will someday want to try again and it will be so much better wait till you can sit outside on a nice night with a drink and you will all see it different.

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08/5/2009 at 7:39pm
 Location: Uddingston Glasgow
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I am also just back from my first camping trip with my little westie and our dog walking group.  I had a Blacks 2 man pop up tent which proved to be very sturdy as we had a lot of wind and rain during the 2 nights we were there.  I slept both nights in the clothes I had been wearing during the day and just got up and washed in the morning and into fresh clothes - my daughter was disgusted when she found out

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08/5/2009 at 7:48pm
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Sleeping in clothes is ok as long as you don't leave them on for your entire stay.

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08/5/2009 at 7:53pm
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Hi Pink38, Don't be put off by your first experience.  Take on board what the others have said. Decent tent, sleeping bag, plenty of insulation, and thermals to wear under p.j thats my preference, you will be snug espeacially with a fan heater if you go ehu.  With me i find my self switching it off believe it or not because i'm too hot!!!!!

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08/5/2009 at 9:20pm
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Oh, imagine leaving them on for the entire stay - they would be walking home themselves

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09/5/2009 at 8:21pm
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Thanks for all your really helpful advice. I wish i had come on here before i went but i'm not going to be put off. A new tent is definately the next step and to wait until it gets a little warmer before i go again. I can see now i made many errors but thats how we learn i guess.  


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10/5/2009 at 9:17am
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Hi Pink. Please don't be blue!
The key as everyone has said is good equipment. Stick with this Forum and you will learn so much. As Val said the 2 things you must never skimp on are your tent and your sleeping bag.
I havea Vango Icarus 500 and it's brilliant - it could just be the tent you are looking for. You'll have it up in 15 mins and pegged out in another 15 mins. It's a great tent at a great price and please try to get a price match and it's possible to get it for less that £129 which is about the standard price. It has the Vango TBS system which is another plus for when the winds come along. Correctly pitched and guyed out, this is great. Fan heaters can be bought very cheaply from eBay. I got mine for a fiver and it has a thermostat. Good luck and don't be put off by one bad experience.


11/5/2009 at 12:12am
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Thats the spirit pink!  Don't be put off, I think a lot of us are still learning on here!  Its all part of the fun!  You'll look back and will find it all funny one day!  At least you will be more prepared for you're next trip.  

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11/5/2009 at 6:59am
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Fleece blankets are a great way of keeping warm, and they tend to squash up pretty small.    I use them in the sleeping bags, over the sleeping bags, and wrapped around me when I am sitting outside and it is chilly. 
Old newspaper under the airbeds acts as a layer of insulation, and can be ditched at the end of the trip.

Those plastic backed picnic rugs are also great underfoot.      I use them in the living area of the tent, and the awning of the camper.    If need be they just get chucked int he washing machine when I get home.

Lots of us have changed tents, for various reasons, after one or two trip out.     Our first tent was a smallish four man tent - but it has no living area.   First trip was fine, the weather was good.   Second trip, it rained almost constantly.    Well being stuck in a small tent with two small kids was not fun, so we bought a much bigger tent, which made a huge difference.    Having somewhere to sit when it is bad is far more enjoyable than being huddled in the bedroom section.

I have a small gas heater which I use to take the chill of the tent first thing in the morning and if need be late evening.     OK it does not heat the tent, especially as I don't have groundsheet other than the sleeping area, but it does take that early morning nip out of the air, while I have my cuppa, on the days when it is too cold/wet to sit outside.



11/5/2009 at 11:51am
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we had our first trip last year spring bank holiday in all the wind and rain,bank holiday monday was terrible,i wouldnt go out for fear of the tent blowing away,we was lucky as we spent most of the day pegging down other tents on the site lol but ours stood up to the battering,didnt let the rain and wind put us off,we read everything we could read on here before buying stuff,so when we finally had our first trip away it was a sucsess,we have now brought a new tent for this year and we are off for two weeks in june,fingers crossed everything will go alright again,this site proved invaluble for advice,lots of seasoned campers here who will answer all ur questions to make ur camping a good experiance, like mine was. [:o)]


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Have a bit of patience and wait until summer.To wake up to all the fresh air and smells is incredible.The good thing about summer,is that there are lovely smells from trees and flowers at night too.

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