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22/9/2013 at 6:09pm
Location: Lancaster Outfit: Landcruiser & Avondale Mayfair 510-5L
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Quote: Originally posted by hankakampa on 22/9/2013Quote: Originally posted by ChrisPolly+Oscar on 22/9/2013Interesting question there sir;I would say, as a design engineer myself, that every vehicle is designed to be a jack of all trades, with certain emphasis on key requirements.
Large vans and proper heavy duty 4x4 (not the artificial posey type) are designed to spend there lives hauling heavy loads and essentially been tortured, but they are thirsty and slow compared to a diesel estate, which wasn't designed primarily for towing...
Would you consider my transit 100/t300 to be a large van? It's a medium wheelbase, medium roof model with a 2.0 turbo Diesel engine.
It's surprisingly nippy away from the lights and if I sit at 60 on the motorway it will do 40mpg although that tails off if I do 70 or 80 ( not sure what it maxes out at but I reckon it's license losing! )
I think that's not too thirsty considering what it can carry! And that's without the roof rack and towbar - both of which are available from Ford as approved accessories for it!
Indeed I would!! We used to use an 02 plate 125/T350 LWB to move a race car & trailer around the country; never got 40mpg though, but it did return 30mpg quite happily. Think it had a 2.4 litre turbo diesel; tough old bird though, had 1000's and 1000's miles of abuse on it.
We were offered a race box converted 1969 AEC Reliance coach with Plaxton Panorama bodywork; big 13 litre diesel slowly chugging away, no more messing with trailers or vans; just 10 boys (& the odd wife) away for the weekend. Only cost £1000; needed some work to get it through MOT, easy though. Only does 18mpg, but spread between 10 of us, cheap enough. Kitchen, bathroom, beds, workshop. Its just like a BIG motorhome...
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22/9/2013 at 9:55pm
Location: uk Outfit: Karsten - sun storm - doesnt matter!
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Quote: Originally posted by ChrisPolly+Oscar on 22/9/2013
Quote: Originally posted by hankakampa on 22/9/2013Quote: Originally posted by ChrisPolly+Oscar on 22/9/2013Interesting question there sir;I would say, as a design engineer myself, that every vehicle is designed to be a jack of all trades, with certain emphasis on key requirements.
Large vans and proper heavy duty 4x4 (not the artificial posey type) are designed to spend there lives hauling heavy loads and essentially been tortured, but they are thirsty and slow compared to a diesel estate, which wasn't designed primarily for towing...
Would you consider my transit 100/t300 to be a large van? It's a medium wheelbase, medium roof model with a 2.0 turbo Diesel engine.
It's surprisingly nippy away from the lights and if I sit at 60 on the motorway it will do 40mpg although that tails off if I do 70 or 80 ( not sure what it maxes out at but I reckon it's license losing! )
I think that's not too thirsty considering what it can carry! And that's without the roof rack and towbar - both of which are available from Ford as approved accessories for it!
Indeed I would!! We used to use an 02 plate 125/T350 LWB to move a race car & trailer around the country; never got 40mpg though, but it did return 30mpg quite happily. Think it had a 2.4 litre turbo diesel; tough old bird though, had 1000's and 1000's miles of abuse on it.
We were offered a race box converted 1969 AEC Reliance coach with Plaxton Panorama bodywork; big 13 litre diesel slowly chugging away, no more messing with trailers or vans; just 10 boys (& the odd wife) away for the weekend. Only cost £1000; needed some work to get it through MOT, easy though. Only does 18mpg, but spread between 10 of us, cheap enough. Kitchen, bathroom, beds, workshop. Its just like a BIG motorhome...
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Oh wow! Look at the size of that!
Have you got piccies of the inside?
13litre engine?!?
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23/9/2013 at 10:16pm
Location: Birmingham Outfit: Yukon River 4 & Quechua 2 Secs XXL
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Thr main probs we have had are: first big family trip, halfway to lake district, accelerator starts sticking real bad, quite scary on mountain roads, nearly gave up but limped onto site. Took car to local garage, told them the problem, he says fine but have you seen the state of your tyres? I say yes, they're fine, quite new, he shows me front tyre, the outside edge worm to the cords. Turned out a broken tracking thingy meant weight was unevenly distributed and all the extra weigjt over distance literally destroyed the tyre. No car all hols waiting to be fixed but was quite nice having to just walk to local village ot beach every day.
End of that year, clutch packed up, car ditched.
This year, new (to us) car, I forget trailer is there, reverse and it jacknifes into rear wing, nice dent (ok, my fault that one!). Then, a couple of weeks ago, I drive to Wales, all seems fine, get to site as clutch packs up on this one, £1k bill from local garage, gutted!
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25/9/2013 at 3:59pm
Location: Severn Valley Outfit: Aztec Galeria 4 Outwell Virginia 5
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Quote: Originally posted by Campernic on 22/9/2013Funny this post should come up, I've just been checking under my car thinking that this camping trip I'm just back from has really done some damage this time. Last week it had a new ball joint and a rear caliper. but today coming home with a fully laden car with three people, two dogs, a family sized pop up tent, and assorted gear has left my estate car very low to the ground. My drive is on a slope and to get out of it you have to go over a crest and my car is long too and the bottom of the car lightly scrapes over the crest at the best of times. When it's loaded up with camping gear, the kids (teens) have to get out and I ease the car over the crest. Today it scraped along more alarmingly than it has done in the past on our return home. I wonder have I buggered the suspension now!
I've been offered a little trailer so that might help the situation.
We have the same problem, our path slopes steeply away from the level road, so getting it over the crest is always a challenge, even unladen. We do like to pack the car for camping at the bottom of the path, behind the fence and gates, so we're not advertising the fact that we're going away, so getting it out over the hump is almost impossible. We find it helps to take the crest at a really sharp angle, so the wheels go sideways over it instead of head-on. We have a Golf, which has a medium length wheelbase. Might not help with anything very much longer, though our daughter gets her Skoda estate down the path using that method, and that is a longer wheelbase than ours.
Our little old Renault Megane had to have a new engine, and then that died too, and I still reckon it was the heavy loads such as camping equipment and bodyboards, and the long-distance hauls, that killed her.
Our son told us to get a Golf, as he said it's a real workhorse. Seems to have been right so far, no problems yet.
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