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Subject Topic: Sciatica...Can I Camp?
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19/6/2012 at 8:28pm
 Location: Ashford mx
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Hugs are better than bullets. as for the amount of medication..I would be questioning it,seems a huge amount,and will be causing all kinds of side effects,they just numb the pain,so you don't actually know if you are moving correctly or not. I hate pain killers and only use them when it is REALLY severe,but I would rather sit with my back against a hot water bottle or wheat bag. I used to be on mountains of tablets but they caused constipation which aggrevated my back pain,so then I had to take laxatives to relieve the constipation..was insane,so I refused to take any more,my body didn't know whether it was coming or going.Now I knoow when to stop and rest and when to keep going.

Just be careful how much medication you take.



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19/6/2012 at 8:30pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Zeelees on 19/6/2012

But I think people with chronic pain are more determined then anyone else..I think it's the desire to have fun and prove we can do things rather than poor us we can't do anything.

And I think we should start our own camping group....."backs to the future! of something!!


Damn right we are determined! Im barely able to walk but once a week I go & buy my magazine, its my tiny bit of independance. Im gonna start swimming again soon too, my frinds are gonna help me get in & out of the pool but while Im in that water......freedom! YAY! 

Im loving the idea of a backs to the future group, I'd bow down to you for that idea, but I cant! 



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19/6/2012 at 8:35pm
 Location: Denmark
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I have had back problems since I was 15 (and I'm 50 now) when I sat down on a chair that was lower than I expected - doesn't take much to get a life with pain in the back. I ignored the problem for decades and ended with severe pain and being litterally unable to walk 2 years ago, lost a job on that account, the Danish Health Service was not very effective, it took them half a year to find out that I didn't suffer fromm sclerosis but only from "back problems", I have 2 bulging disques which are too high up in the spine to get operated, but they say that this problem made me walk wrong for many years which was too hard for the muscles and tendants in my legs. Now I am only on painkillers now and than (which is good because the high doses I had before gave me stomach ulcer). I got a lot better with physiotherapy and have to remember to do my exercises.

The reason why I tell this is that I first started camping (after a 10 years break) in spring last year when I still had severe pain and walked with crutches and didn't even have a diagnosis yet, I got stubborn, I was alone with two kids (then 8 and 11) and bought a Montana 6!
First time we went camping my eldest brought a friend too, the four of us managed to get the tent up, and the big surprise was that I slept much better on the airbed than on my good matress at home! I didn't have less pain than at home, but it was easier to cope with because it was much easier just to lean back and enjoy while I would have felt much more stressed at home. And you can't beat that feeling of "Yes I can!"
The kids helped me up from the airbed and from my cheap camping chair and I managed well, after that "me and my crutches" went solo camping (in a smaller and easier tent of course) many weekends, and just before our summer camping holiday in England last year I could walk without crutches.

I think that going camping and sometimes pushing myself to the limit helped me getting better, if I had stayed in front of the television I might still hobble around with crutches now.

I know this is my story and cannot be applied to others, anyway I think if you have others to help you it shouldn't be more complicated or more painful to go camping than staying at home. If I could choose between having pain when camping and having pain at home I choose camping...

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Proud owner of a 1987 Sprite Alpine 370 EK, a cheap popup tent and a beloved retro Trio frame tent from the early seventies, called Giraffen.


19/6/2012 at 8:57pm
 Location: Derby
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Quote: Originally posted by Zeelees on 19/6/2012

Hugs are better than bullets. as for the amount of medication..I would be questioning it,seems a huge amount,and will be causing all kinds of side effects,they just numb the pain,so you don't actually know if you are moving correctly or not. I hate pain killers and only use them when it is REALLY severe,but I would rather sit with my back against a hot water bottle or wheat bag. I used to be on mountains of tablets but they caused constipation which aggrevated my back pain,so then I had to take laxatives to relieve the constipation..was insane,so I refused to take any more,my body didn't know whether it was coming or going.Now I knoow when to stop and rest and when to keep going.

Just be careful how much medication you take.


I know exactly what you mean, I hate taking pills! The GP has offered laxatives but I have misused them in the past for (unsucessful) weight loss, so I suffer instead, apple juice helps a bit. The side effects of the meds are horrid & depression is a real possability but the worst thing is they barely touch the pain!   Im due for a pain clinic appointment so hope that helps! Medication sucks! 

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19/6/2012 at 9:48pm
 Location: Northwich Cheshire
 Outfit: Outwell Nevada XL & Outwell Bear Lake
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Hi Chickadee

Sorry to hear that you're having such a bad time with your sciatica:(

I'm new to camping and one of the reasons I was never very keen was the possible strain and damage I could do to my lower back. I've had two micro discectomies in the last 6 years and had several facet joints undercut...and "touch wood" everything is good at the moment.

Personally, I found that carrying the heavy tent bag and trying to drag poles around, was the hardest part. Try and delegate as much of the tent erection process as possible. I know from watching Youtube, it's possible to get an Outwell Bear Lake 6 upright, with just one person doing the job...I can't imagine it's easy the first time but it might be worth looking at if your OH is prepared to do it alone:)

Try to avoid any heavy lifting, bend from you knees and pull your core abdominal muscles tight. Try and keep moving as much as you can and sleep anyway that you find comfortable... I always thought sleeping on my back was best but my surgeon told me it makes little difference, and the main thing was to get adequate sleep. At the first sign of any additional pain flare up, stop what you're doing and get someone else to take over.

I've found that the SIM I used to sleep on was very good...but the campbed I tried was a definite No!

Choosing a decent camping chair has taken awhile...most seem to be either too upright or too slouchy. I've currently got a Kampa Tub Chair, which seems to be pretty good at supporting my lower back. I also try to raise my legs slightly with a low box.

I hope you're soon sorted. Unfortunately I know from personal experience that the wheels of the NHS move very slowly when it comes to back issues. The first discectomy I had came after 5 months of pointless Dr's appts, physios and chiropractic visits. I was drugged up to the eyeballs, couldn't function normally and still had awful pain. Luckily, my OH had Private Health cover and I asked my Dr to write a referral. I had been told by another Dr never to see an ortho surgeon for nerve issues, so I arranged to see a Neurosurgeon instead. Less than 48 hours after making the appt, I'd had MRI scans and a full consultation! At this point he told me that as I'd had the symptoms for over 3 months there was little chance of it settling down and the disc herniations where quite big, so he wanted to do a micro discectomy and under cut the spinal facet joints.
To cut a long story short, I had the op 2 days later and apart from a bit of soreness at the incision site, I had no pain in the nerve at all. According to my surgeon, my disc had become stuck to the nerve and partially fused to it...so no amount of physio or conservative treatment would of ever helped!

Best advice I can give based on personal experience...after 3 months on the NHS ask for a referral to a neurosurgeon and an MRI scan, and don't be fobbed off.

Good Luck:)))


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20/6/2012 at 2:44am
 Location: Coventry
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My hubby has had a back problem since spring 2003, two discs in his lower back have almost disappeared, so the vertebrae are rubbing most of the time, plus the nerves to both hips are trapped between two of the vertebrae. He has constant pain in his back, pain in his hips when he walks, and one leg keeps going dead.

We actually started camping in 2005. I've always done most of the putting up of the tent and kitting it out. He helps where possible. We did buy a trailer tent in 2010 to make things easier. His philosophy is that he will be in just as much pain at home as he is when camping, so we may as well go camping!

He's had four lot's of injections, but only one worked. He went into hospital on Monday & a six hour operation yesterday. So if all goes well with his recovery, he should be able to enjoy camping to the full in the future.



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20/6/2012 at 8:39am
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I've just been diagnosed with spinal stenosis, bone spurs, one disk partly out on 4 vertebrae in my neck. I only have 50% use of my left arm and can not put my head back or raise my arms, as in to clean windows etc.  I threw the gabapentin out when I saw the sides effects and I bought a Tens machine and this works for me. I still take some pain killers as well as it sometimes flares up. I'm not to lift anything but I still manage to hold my job down as a teacher. We did 3 weeks camping in France last year and are doing the same again this year. Now that I know what it is it is alot easy to deal with and I worry less. Hubby has been great and I owe him so much. Don't let things like this take over your life, get camping, the more the better.

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20/6/2012 at 9:47am
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Jean,wishing your husband a speedy recovery.x

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21/6/2012 at 2:04am
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Quote: Originally posted by Zeelees on 20/6/2012
Jean,wishing your husband a speedy recovery.x
Thank you very much Zeelees

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