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13/4/2012 at 8:20pm
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Quote: Originally posted by andyfisher on 13/4/2012

We took our dog when she was 14 weeks old. Great socialisation opportunity.  She really enjoyed it and has been twice since then and it has got easier - she was able to be loose in the tent last time!  We use a crate and thankfully didn't mind being tied up.  A delta peg made a good chew!

 

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13/4/2012 at 10:21pm
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Quote: Originally posted by daveslisa on 13/4/2012
My kids have been taught that they should never approach a dog without asking first...(the owner, not the dog) and to wait for the dog to come to them.....not just on a site but in the area we live too......don't know if it's the right way to do it but it's always worked for us  

No thats the right and responsible way to teach them and i wish others would teach their children the same.

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13/4/2012 at 10:26pm
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Well done for asking the question, OP .

My late Springer had fear aggression (of other dogs, not humans).  We never gave up trying to fix his issues, but despite our efforts, the best we managed was to keep him out of situations where he felt unsafe and that, in turn, kept other dogs safe from him. 

His happiest times were spent camping where he obviously enjoyed watching other dogs from a distance, secure in the knowledge that none could venture onto our pitch as they were all on leads or tethered.  The thought of another dog freely wandering up to him would have filled me with dread.  The consequences would have been very ugly.

We are now excitedly looking forward to taking our new Springer puppy, Higgins, camping this summer. In preparation for camping and life in general we go to training school once a week.  I've had dogs most of my life, but there's always something new to learn and a weekly class is a reminder to regularly invest time and energy into positively shaping your dog's development and not to let bad habits form.  There's no sense in letting a puppy establish undesireable behaviours in the hope that they'll grow out of them.  They tend not to! 

If you feel you need help teaching your pretty little pup not to bark when tethered, why not find a friendly dog training school and take her along.  You'll all enjoy it, I'm sure, as you will camping with a dog you can be proud is behaving nicely, in line with campsite rules.  Have fun!



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Quote: Originally posted by daveslisa on 13/4/2012My kids have been taught that they should never approach a dog without asking first...(the owner, not the dog) and to wait for the dog to come to them.....not just on a site but in the area we live too......don't know if it's the right way to do it but it's always worked for us




We did the same. I always told our dd it wasn't fair on dogs to have kids give them a surprise visit because its the dog that gets into trouble if it snaps because it got a fright. We don't have a dog but I do understand there are a lot of dangerous things on the end of a dog lead....just not at the collar end. ;)



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14/4/2012 at 8:39am
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Our previous Boxer, Mystie was a big dog for her breed but a real lady, adults always seemed wary at first but the kids all seemed to make a bee line for her, I always kept an eye on them but it usually gets to the stage on most sites where they would come round just to say hello to her like these two at Breck farm,



now shes gone Dempsey is just the same.
The only time either of them barked was when we were putting up the tent as they weren't getting attention, I bet the neighbours thought "Oh no a barker" but as soon as it's up we put their bed in & show them their corner & its head down & wake me when the foods unloaded.
I made a longer than normal lead for them but make sure it stays in our pitch at its limit .
Unfortunately theres always some numptie who wants to introduce his shark on a leash by yanking at it & screaming sit which winds both dogs up instead of asking & taking your word for it when you say better not ,because you know how it will end.
Being Boxers, so inherantly brain damaged they just love running with other dogs so why not just keep it for the beach/field/woods where they can sniff doggy bits if they want or run around like lunatics & bother no one.

Just a foot note, they say a dog only behaves as its owner teaches it, well I want it put on record I have never sniffed a dogs bits in public or private so I don't know where they have got it from.

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14/4/2012 at 9:13am
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Quote   "I have never known her to snap or be unfriendly in all that time. However as much as our beloved dogs are part of our family, I never forget that they are dogs, I would never trust 100%. Even if children want to pet her, and she loves that, I always make sure I have hold of her and that she is petted under controlled conditions" unquote

Agree 100% with this very sensible statement. I get really annoyed when folk say they trust their dog 100%. I love my dog 100%, and he the most placid, loving animal ever. But I dont trust him 100% and he will never, ever be left alone in a room with my baby grandson. He is an animal and animals are never 100% predictable.


14/4/2012 at 9:34am
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Quote: Originally posted by Cliff n Pat on 14/4/2012
Our previous Boxer, Mystie was a big dog for her breed but a real lady, adults always seemed wary at first but the kids all seemed to make a bee line for her, I always kept an eye on them but it usually gets to the stage on most sites where they would come round just to say hello to her like these two at Breck farm,



now shes gone Dempsey is just the same.
The only time either of them barked was when we were putting up the tent as they weren't getting attention, I bet the neighbours thought "Oh

no a barker" but as soon as it's up we put their bed in & show them their corner & its head down & wake me when the foods unloaded.
I made a longer than normal lead for them but make sure it stays in
our pitch at its limit .
Unfortunately theres always some numptie who wants to introduce his shark on a leash by yanking at it & screaming sit which winds both
dogs up instead of asking & taking your word for it when you say better not ,because you know how it will end.


Our boxers are the same never want to move very far away from us and it's sleep and food over anything, on another note mystie is so like our youngest pup snoop, I am sure that mystie had a fantastic life look how happy she is in that picture x
Being Boxers, so inherantly brain damaged they just love running with other dogs so why not just keep it for the beach/field/woods where they can sniff doggy bits if they want or run around like lunatics & bother no one.

Just a foot note, they say a dog only behaves as its owner teaches it, well I want it put on record I have never sniffed a dogs bits in public or private so I don't know where they have got it from.



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14/4/2012 at 9:46am
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I have no worries over my springer's reaction to people as she loves being around folk(adults and children)...But I do like to introduce her to little children in a controlled way as she can be a bit bouncy at times!!

Love it when wee toddlers come over for a play when your out for a walk etc.as you can give them a positive encounter with a dog but under controlled circumstances..

Most folks apprehension of dogs springs from a bad encounter in childhood(or so I've been told by most folk who are wary of dogs) I'm still a bit wary of German Shepherds myself having been bitten by one as a young lad!!

I was taking the dog to the vets last year..Sat on the bus..dog at my feet,out of the passageway.When a wee lass of about 4yrs old came on with her mum...Stopped dead in the passageway when she spotted my dog..."Mummy.Mummy...Nasty dog on the bus" she says.."Never you mind about the nasty dog...I wont let it hurt you" Mum says....

Now I realize mum..In her own way..Was trying to reassure the wee one..But I was thinking that a bit of unintentional negative reinforcement was going on there..I felt like saying"Hello!! I'm sat right here...How do you know my dogs a "Nasty" one??" If I had had the time I would have introduced Millie to her for a bit of positive reinforcement...But the situation(on the bus etc)was not really the right time or place for that..

I too have had unsupervised kids come over for a pet of the dog while on site which is no big deal if I or someone else is about as once again the encounter can be used in a positive way..But do wish(as most do)the parents would ask permission first...

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14/4/2012 at 7:46pm
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Quote: Originally posted by TraceyD on 13/4/2012


Totally agree with this, just wish some parents would educate their children not to approach dogs they don't know. .......So yes, control your dog, but control your children aswell.

So agree with this. My family always had dogs but we were brought upnever to go near a strange dog without asking.

We had a toddler rush up my oldest lakie at one site. Luckily, he adores kids and just put his paws on her shoulders and stood there while she hugged and kissed him. Her dad was very apologetic, and we spent a bit of time showing her the right way to approach a dog.

Oddly, mine, who are very, very vocal at home, rarely bark when tethered. The only exceptions are when ball games are going on close by and they are desperate to join, or if people cycle close to the tent (both dogs have had scarey experiences with bikes and hate them).

My two go mad if approached by an untethered dog and my bitch is a bit fear aggressive with big, boisterous dogs. They've got worse since an untethered dog charged across a site and went for them when they were tied up.

To go back to OP's problem, I'd suggest a crate for an alternative if she doesn't get used to being tethered. If she's already used to a crate, you could try crating her and then leave her lead on, then try attaching the lead to the tether while she's in the crate. Then work up to leaving the crate door open, and she may eventaully get used to being out, but still tethered.

She might also be happier on a running line. Put a rope through the handle of her lead (when she's not on it!), then the rope between two dog stakes so it's virtually on the ground, then attach gthe lead to her collar. It gives them a bit more movement and they often settle better on a running line than on a single tether.



14/4/2012 at 8:03pm
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got to say Clint is a loving dog, but unpredictable. Somedays he'll be fine with a dog, but the same dog the next day he'll try and kill it. We can never predict just how he'll react. We've tried everything to train him to be friendly at all times but have to accept that having had him for two yrs we're not going to manage it. We've even been back to the training at the rescue centre. He was a rescue and we have no way of knowing what happened in the five years of his live before we got him.

We do keep introducing him to other dogs on walks in a controlled way and he's much better now than 2 yrs ago when we got him. But he still reacts sometimes and we never know when that will be

So an untethered dog on site would be a living hell for us, as i'd be on egg shells in case clint went for the untethered dog



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18/4/2012 at 8:41pm
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I've read these posts with interest. Completely agree with everyone's comments. I have 3 Westies who love being in the caravan. Whilst fantastic dogs with great temperaments I would never take a chance with them wandering loose in campsites. Mind you I've never actually been on any campsites that allow this to happen. My dogs are extremely friendly and love attention from everyone. My problem is that because they are small, cute looking and being 3 are a novelty then vast majority of kids think it totally acceptable to pet them without asking either us as the owners or their own parents. I've lost count of the number of kids who have attempted to pick them up!! I havealways said the day any of my dog bites then it's "vet time" which would break my heart however in reality it's the kids who are in the wrong. Yet I would the one feeling guilty and upset if my dog were to bite. Last may bank hol we were on a site whereby a family allowed their 3 kids to run wild around all the dogs. I even caught 1 child unclipping my dogs to "put them into her dolls pram to take them for a walk". The mother had to cheek to tell me she was only playing! Would she have said that if my dogs had growled at her children? Sorry for the rant but it gets me so angry when people complain about dogs on campsites. As with kids there are good & responsible dogs and their owners yet all we ever hear about are the negative experiences.

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18/4/2012 at 8:56pm
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Another post from me. I've also had the misfortune to have experience my youngest dog cocking his leg on someone's water barrel. I hasten to add that it wasn't because he was off his lead. I had him on his extending lead which I had not retracted proprerly & came out awning & turned to zip awning when youngest must have wandered to next caravan & lifted his leg unbeknown to me. I duly took all 3 for walk only to return to face a barrage of abuse from the owner in van next door. I was speechless at both his tone & his attitude. Yes I fully accept that both my dog and I were in the wrong to have "allowed" due dog to pee however I would gladly have taken the water barrel & scrubbed it clean for him ( it was raining as well) yet the owner dud not give mr opportunity to even offer this.   He just screamed about dogs ruining holidays etc. I was so upset that I could only mutter sorry by the time he ran out of breath. Accidents do happen & I would have dealt with it if I had been given the chance. To add insult to injury his 3 large teenagers had been playing ball games between his van and mine and I did not say a word!! This incident ruined my last few days of my holiday as I was then paranoid when taking my dogs out our awning.

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