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Quote: Originally posted by Valk_scot on 09/5/2007

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Golden rule? One peg for every guyline. No exceptions....except, of course, where the guyline is attached to two points of the tent, and you peg into the loop.

As to length, you want a guyline to hit the ground at an angle of 45`, so use whatever length of guyline is necessary to achive this.

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Our Montana 6 survived the winds of Anglesey this weekend and we had friends with us that had a Vango Diablo 600. The stories the next day of doors being ripped off of the tents and things going missing was a bit bad. Also on a walk round the campsite early the next morning (small children insist on getting up at stupid o'clock on a Sunday!!) All of the windbreakers that were down and broken was unreal. Whilst we were having breakfast and coffee people were getting up and banging in poles and pegs!

I can't believe people don't make sure that pegs are in and thigns are secure I wouldn't personally be able to sleep if they weren't. The blue pegs i got with the monty were brilliant and I have to admit after this weekend I will definately get more of those or try the delta pegs that everyone is raving about. Those traditional pegs are pants.

By the way anyone that doesn't think that a tunnel tent will survive think again if it is well pegged down it will. We took my niece on her first camping trip and she slept soundly through all the wind and rain and wasn't scared at all even though before we went that was what she was scared of. The Montana 6 is a very stable tent as long as it is pegged down right.

Quote: Originally posted by Peridot on 09/5/2007

Quote: Originally posted by Valk_scot on 09/5/2007Golden rule? One peg for every guyline. No exceptions....except, of course, where the guyline is attached to two points of the tent, and you peg into the loop.

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While I agree totally with the principle - the Diablos are incredibly well endowed with guylines (the 600 has 20 in total)

I feel more comfortable with doubling guyropes into delta pegs then I would with individual pegging using the supplied pegs.

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Quote: Originally posted by Valk_scot on 09/5/2007

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Golden rule? One peg for every guyline. No exceptions....except, of course, where the guyline is attached to two points of the tent, and you peg into the loop.

As to length, you want a guyline to hit the ground at an angle of 45`, so use whatever length of guyline is necessary to achive this.

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Thank-you for that, greatly appreciated! I'd better order some more Delta Pegs though! I was doubling (even tripling) up in some places as I didn't have enough Delta pegs and didn't know this "Golden Rule". And of course, in doubling/tripling some the guy line lengths and angles were a little odd! I consider myself lucky to of escaped the weekend and promise not to do it again!

Best wishes,

Jon

delta pegs sounds great i am going to get some first time camping better to be safe then sorry how much are they

Quote: Originally posted by big b on 10/5/2007

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I have an issue with the crap pegs that are issued with tents these days. These thin metal things are useless 

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can agree there think I will be using the rock pegs this weekend about 12 inches long, plus with just using the wee apache it is lower than most cars so couple of cars as windbreaks 

Quote: Originally posted by onred on 07/5/2007

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Quote: Originally posted by Fudge59 on 17/5/2007

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Just a thought on delta ground anchors - do you use them just on the guys, or on all the flysheet rubbers/cords? Thinking of getting some for our bigger tent.

Fudge

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Fudge, Deltas are just for main supporting guys.

Quote: Originally posted by clairemac9 on 17/5/2007

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can you get them from a camping shop or just the site

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Just here at the minute clairemac9