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09/5/2007 at 11:44pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Valk_scot on 09/5/2007

Golden rule? One peg for every guyline. No exceptions....except, of course, where the guyline is attached to two points of the tent, and you peg into the loop.

As to length, you want a guyline to hit the ground at an angle of 45`, so use whatever length of guyline is necessary to achive this.



While I agree totally with the principle - the Diablos are incredibly well endowed with guylines (the 600 has 20 in total)

I feel more comfortable with doubling guyropes into delta pegs then I would with individual pegging using the supplied pegs.



10/5/2007 at 12:23am
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Our Montana 6 survived the winds of Anglesey this weekend and we had friends with us that had a Vango Diablo 600. The stories the next day of doors being ripped off of the tents and things going missing was a bit bad. Also on a walk round the campsite early the next morning (small children insist on getting up at stupid o'clock on a Sunday!!) All of the windbreakers that were down and broken was unreal. Whilst we were having breakfast and coffee people were getting up and banging in poles and pegs!

I can't believe people don't make sure that pegs are in and thigns are secure I wouldn't personally be able to sleep if they weren't. The blue pegs i got with the monty were brilliant and I have to admit after this weekend I will definately get more of those or try the delta pegs that everyone is raving about. Those traditional pegs are pants.

By the way anyone that doesn't think that a tunnel tent will survive think again if it is well pegged down it will. We took my niece on her first camping trip and she slept soundly through all the wind and rain and wasn't scared at all even though before we went that was what she was scared of. The Montana 6 is a very stable tent as long as it is pegged down right.



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10/5/2007 at 7:10am
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Quote: Originally posted by Peridot on 09/5/2007
Quote: Originally posted by Valk_scot on 09/5/2007Golden rule? One peg for every guyline. No exceptions....except, of course, where the guyline is attached to two points of the tent, and you peg into the loop.

While I agree totally with the principle - the Diablos are incredibly well endowed with guylines (the 600 has 20 in total)

I feel more comfortable with doubling guyropes into delta pegs then I would with individual pegging using the supplied pegs.



20 guylines isn`t excessive for a big tent. My Vango Oregon 600 has 12, and most of them run doubled. (Which I dislike, and would much rather have 20 singles.) How much more effort is it to knock in 20 pegs rather than 12, say?

If someone wants to save five minutes of pegging time, then leave off some of the intermediate flysheet loops, which are less important structurally. Except folk do tend to peg every last one of these down, because they`re more concerned with draughts and getting the flysheet as close to the ground as possible than with the tent staying up in poor weather, apparently.

Incidentally, my own Hubby is a bit of a slob about pegging and quite often tries to persuade me that he can double up loops in safety. At this point I usually tell him he can either hang pods while I peg (he`s tall...he hates hanging pods) or stop moaning and get on with it. I then remind him about several times over the last couple of decades when the weather has deteriorated during the night and because he`s pretty deaf and likes his beer, he never wakes up. Thus it`s me checking the storm pegging at three am. In other words, do it now, or I`ll be out there with the spare mallet, and not to repeg something.

Bottom line. take an extra five minutes of your life and peg it out to the maximum. Yup, nine times out of ten it`s not necessary. Tenth time, you`ll need every peg you`ve got.


10/5/2007 at 7:40am
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I have an issue with the crap pegs that are issued with tents these days. These thin metal things are useless 

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10/5/2007 at 9:40am
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Quote: Originally posted by Valk_scot on 09/5/2007
Golden rule? One peg for every guyline. No exceptions....except, of course, where the guyline is attached to two points of the tent, and you peg into the loop.

As to length, you want a guyline to hit the ground at an angle of 45`, so use whatever length of guyline is necessary to achive this.


Thank-you for that, greatly appreciated! I'd better order some more Delta Pegs though! I was doubling (even tripling) up in some places as I didn't have enough Delta pegs and didn't know this "Golden Rule". And of course, in doubling/tripling some the guy line lengths and angles were a little odd! I consider myself lucky to of escaped the weekend and promise not to do it again!

Best wishes,

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14/5/2007 at 11:49am
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We just bought a Montana 6 for this year and already have a set of deltas, so I am not complacent but I am pretty confident about our own safety/stability. But I would be incandescent if some lazy so-and-so couldn't be bothered to put their tent up properly and ended our holiday when their loose poles or flying gazebo damaged our tent or heaven forbid somebody in it. If that does happen, what is the etiquette ? Do you wait for daylight to assess the damage or is it okay to attack them during the night ?
I wonder if insurance would cover someone else wrecking your tent ?


14/5/2007 at 4:23pm
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delta pegs sounds great i am going to get some first time camping better to be safe then sorry how much are they



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16/5/2007 at 10:20pm
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Quote: Originally posted by big b on 10/5/2007


I have an issue with the crap pegs that are issued with tents these days. These thin metal things are useless 

can agree there think I will be using the rock pegs this weekend about 12 inches long, plus with just using the wee apache it is lower than most cars so couple of cars as windbreaks 



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17/5/2007 at 12:08pm
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Just a thought on delta ground anchors - do you use them just on the guys, or on all the flysheet rubbers/cords? Thinking of getting some for our bigger tent.

Fudge


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17/5/2007 at 6:55pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Fudge59 on 17/5/2007
Just a thought on delta ground anchors - do you use them just on the guys, or on all the flysheet rubbers/cords? Thinking of getting some for our bigger tent.

Fudge

Fudge, Deltas are just for main supporting guys.

 

 



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can you get them from a camping shop or just the site

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17/5/2007 at 9:02pm
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Quote: Originally posted by clairemac9 on 17/5/2007
can you get them from a camping shop or just the site

Just here at the minute clairemac9

 



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17/5/2007 at 10:11pm
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Cheers Rob

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