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03/6/2007 at 2:17pm
Location: Weegieland Scotland Outfit: SunValley 8
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Quote: Originally posted by The JJs on 03/6/2007
Ask what your Dad would prefer you to use, then ask him to buy it
Tell your Dad that you would like an Aga, together with the truck to carry it.
When I first investigated Coleman petrol stoves many years ago, I too was appalled at the thought of using something as volatile as petrol in a cooker. I was brought up in the era of paraffin Primus stoves which, even in the hands of my expert Dad, were fairly temperamental. My Dad never brought home any eyebrows from camping holidays.
However, having used various Coleman stoves and lights over the years, I'm convinced that, properly used and with safety in mind, they are at least as safe as Calor/Campingaz stoves and lights, and a whole lot safer than the aerosol type canister stoves.
As said above, anything with a naked flame is potentially dangerous. It didn't stop our caveman ancestors from inventing the barbecue.
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03/6/2007 at 5:03pm
Location: Cheshire Outfit: Riva Dandy Dimension
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Quote: Originally posted by mdskids on 03/6/2007
I'm not sure this is what your Dad meant, but rather than the safety of the stove itself, there are issues with the waste gases given off by burning petrol. I'm no expert, but I believe there are nasty additives in petrol (Benzene in particular) that can give off harmful fumes when burned (after all you wouldn't want to inhale too much of a car exhaust). Worth bearing this in mind and cooking where there is plenty of ventilation. Alternatively, Coleman fuel is much cleaner burning, but obvioulsy a lot more expensive. I think I saw a thread somewhere else about a third alternative fuel - a lot cleaner than petrol, but a lot cheaper than coleman fuel. By the way - liquid petrol is not as flammable as people think, actually quite hard to light - it's the petrol vapour that burns easily - that's why the fuel pipe goes through the flame - to vapourise it.
P.S. Cars only explode dramatically in action films, not in real life.
There's been a couple of threads recently about fuel choices for the Coleman Stoves; you'll find them in the 'equipment' section. But Basically;
Unleaded petrol ~£1 per litre - cheap, easy to get but contains nasty additives
Coleman Fuel ~£10 per litre - expensive, available at camp shops
much less harmfull additives
Aspen 4T ~£2.50 per litre - less expensive than Coleman fuel but similar
benefits. More difficult to obtain
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03/6/2007 at 5:55pm
Location: Cheshire Outfit: London 3 Djakarta Andorra
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I have a Coleman Dual Fuel, and I swear by it. It's a fantastic bit of kit. I'm not 100% sure, but it's got to be one of the most cost efficient, most powerful cookers you can get.
There've been threads going on about additives to unleaded petrol and likening it to breathing car exhausts.....rubbish. A car engine burns a mix in milliseconds, the cooker burns it all of. Granted there will be some soot and maybe some unburned gasses. There are dangers with any combustible material, and I prefer to use petrol than have a pressurised gas bottle bomb in a hot car.
It is a good idea however to get a fuel bottle to carry spare petrol in. Petrol station jerry cans are a bit big, and you're not likely to use that much unless you were away for a month or three. Smaller can, less hazardous vapours...
As most people have said, as long as you're careful, you won't have any trouble... I agree with Kate on this one. Get your dad to see it in action so he sees for himself how safe it is. Once he realises you're not using a pool of petrol, but fuel in a sealed container, he'll hopefully have a change of heart.
Happy cooking...
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