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As a general rule the main guy ropes are attached to the central portion of the tent and are usually attatched to the tent in 2 or 3 seperate places ( bi or tri lines ) or to the main poles of the tent.

Imagine looking down on the tent and picking the '4 corners' or rthe central body of the tent ?

Yes- look for the guys that attach to the most important poles - this depends on design. E.g. for our big tunnel tent it is fairly obvious that the 4 hoops that make the shape have a guy on each side so we use 8 deltas on those.

So looking at a plan of your tent, HERE I would say that as a minimum you need Deltas on the 2 poles that cross over to make the main central dome  and on the pole that holds up the porch area - at 2 deltas per pole that is just 6. If you really want to ensure a  solid tent you may also want to use them on the bedroom poles; but the guy rope points are not shown on this plan so only you will know if the bedroom poles have a single central main guy, or two, one to either side.

HI Can't help but have been looking at your tent and wondered if you would recommend it as we are looking for a bigger tent? And this seems to be what we are looking for?

Thanks

Kate

foggers - thamks for the info, however there are no guying points connected to the areas you suggest, look at my gallery. looks like i should be safe with 8 deltas i'll just work it out when i  pitch.

katejopson - i would highly recommend this tent, if you are looking to buy this tent see if you can get the 2006 model, as they will be much cheaper and the only difference to the 2007 model is the shape of the front window.

Quote: Originally posted by tony4938 on 05/8/2007

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foggers - thamks for the info, however there are no guying points connected to the areas you suggest, look at my gallery. looks like i should be safe with 8 deltas i'll just work it out when i  pitch.

katejopson - i would highly recommend this tent, if you are looking to buy this tent see if you can get the 2006 model, as they will be much cheaper and the only difference to the 2007 model is the shape of the front window.

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How rude!

Thanks Tony!

Will have a look around and see what i can get then.

Thanks a lot!

KAte

Quote: Originally posted by PigletandTigger on 05/8/2007

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Having looked at the picture in your gallery Tony you'd be better off just using all the guys on it start with rather than spending too long worrying what pegs to use!

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That was my first thought too! There`s not a lot of using even the mighty Deltas if you don`t bother pegging the rest of of your guylines out, Tony.

Quote: Originally posted by Skatty on 05/8/2007

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Quote: Originally posted by tony4938 on 05/8/2007

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foggers - thamks for the info, however there are no guying points connected to the areas you suggest, look at my gallery. looks like i should be safe with 8 deltas i'll just work it out when i  pitch.

katejopson - i would highly recommend this tent, if you are looking to buy this tent see if you can get the 2006 model, as they will be much cheaper and the only difference to the 2007 model is the shape of the front window.

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How rude!

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Hello Traciem.

Deltas are shaped as two sides of an equalateral triangle (hence the name) and there are two types for different types of ground: nylon and steel.

They are particularly effective because, as a result of their unusual design, the force exerted on them by a staining guy rope is applied equally over the entire length of the peg and not just at the top (as with conventional pegs) which can exert great forces of leverage resulting in the peg coming loose.  (Bloody hell, that was a long sentance!!)

They are highly recommended by many on this site (I will be trying my newly-bought Deltas near Bala on Wednesday) and if you do order some, make sure you give your UKCS membership number and you'll get 10% discount.

Here is the Delta web site.  Their service is VERY quick.

AND as a UKCS member you get a 10% discount from the genius Robb Orr who invented them and often posts on here!

The metal ones are great for hard ground, and the nylon ones for anything else - we have only been one one pitch where the nylon ones could not tackle the ground. We used metal ones to make holes for some of the nylon ones as we did not have enough metal ones to do all the guy ropes.

I have been camping regularly for 24 years and can honestly say that Delta pegs are the most significant innovation for tent stability that I have ever experienced....and I am NOT on any kind of commission for plugging them!