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04/9/2007 at 3:20pm
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just been given a bottle of gas but it's propane and not butane is this safe to connect to the cooker to cook with or does it really need to be butane gas ?
many thanks
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04/9/2007 at 3:22pm
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You can use either (one is better in colder climates) but make sure that you have the correct regulator for the gas you use

 

 



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04/9/2007 at 3:31pm
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Either is ok but propane is better in the cold.

jans



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04/9/2007 at 3:34pm
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oh right cool thanks :)
i knew propane burns hotter than butane just wasnt sure if it was ok for cooking with i've used it with a burners torch but thats it ...lol

thanks all :)
steve


04/9/2007 at 5:26pm
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yes it is safe as long as have the correct regulator for the propane bottle



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04/9/2007 at 7:52pm
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cool it came with the regulator already with it
thanks :)
steve


04/9/2007 at 8:07pm
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Which is cheapest? - I just paid £19.15 for a 907 butane refill. Was paying £10-£12 last year!!!!


04/9/2007 at 8:12pm
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it's a 13kg bottle full of gas :) so i don't think i'll be worrying about the price of a refill for a while :D


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Quote: Originally posted by JimPD on 04/9/2007


Which is cheapest? - I just paid £19.15 for a 907 butane refill. Was paying £10-£12 last year!!!!

Ours cost 13.50 in Cannock.



05/9/2007 at 12:25am
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Quote: Originally posted by JimPD on 04/9/2007


Which is cheapest? - I just paid £19.15 for a 907 butane refill. Was paying £10-£12 last year!!!!

 

That is scandalous that suppliers can get away with charging that much for a refill 907, and is one of the reasons that I switched to calor 4.5kg



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05/9/2007 at 12:56am
 Location: Newcastle u lyme staffordshire
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It looks like many a supplier is jumping on the camping bandwagon. Perrhaps because of the bad weather gas has been higher demanded. On the other hand less people would be camping.......i'm sticking with my 4.5 that i share with the barby at home....£12 quid in stoke.

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05/9/2007 at 6:11am
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Quote: Originally posted by steveiow on 04/9/2007
oh right cool thanks :)
i knew propane burns hotter than butane just wasnt sure if it was ok for cooking with i've used it with a burners torch but thats it ...lol

thanks all :)
steve
It's not better for use in cold conditions because it burns hotter (not sure it does - I thought butane was actually fractionally more heat efficient than propane? someone more technical on here will know for certain on that point). No. The reason propane is better in cold conditions is because it vaporises (ie is useable) at lower temperatures. Typically, butane ceases to vaporise (so won't light!) as you get down to within a few degrees above freezing (5 dgrees or so seems to ring a bell?). In real terms that means it can give trouble on colder evenings/mornings early or late season in this country, even if it isn't actually frosty. Propane continues to vaporise colder than that so can still be used early/late season & in winter (not sure how low it has to get before it too fails to vaporise).

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Quote: Originally posted by force ten on 05/9/2007

Quote: Originally posted by JimPD on 04/9/2007


Which is cheapest? - I just paid £19.15 for a 907 butane refill. Was paying £10-£12 last year!!!!

 

That is scandalous that suppliers can get away with charging that much for a refill 907, and is one of the reasons that I switched to calor 4.5kg


Me to, 50% more gas for less money, my 4.5 was £11-42 eight weeks ago



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05/9/2007 at 10:24am
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thanks for that info TrickyWoo :)
as long as it's safe to use for camp cooking that'll do me fine .didn't really want to change a full bottle of propane for an empty bottle of butane they said thats what they would do that would mean they wouldn't refund any gas i had left if i was to swap it for butane :(
i'll use this bottle first then swap to butane i think

thanks
steve


05/9/2007 at 4:25pm
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The reason that propane is better in cold weather than butane is down to the boiling point of the gas, this is the point where the gas turns from a liquid into a gas and the minimum temperature that butane will boil is around zero degrees centigrade, so if you want to go camping in sub zero temperatures then you had better take your red propane cylinder as your blue butane will not work  




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