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Quote: Originally posted by romany on 09/8/2008

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Quote: Originally posted by Bernie47 on 08/8/2008

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Many people consider excessive windbreaks to be anti-social and I tend to agree.

I can understand erecting a windbreak around your porch for cooking purposes etc, but why mark off your territory?  If people want total privacy then in my opinion they should ask themselves whether camping is really for them.

 

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 I take exception to if I wish to utilise the whole of the pitch I have paid for and put wind breaks all around then I have every right to do so

I think that's the w**ker alert the OP refers to.

We have two windbreaks but I must admit I don't use them much as I don't like them. I use them sometimes when having a bbq just as a windbreak and somewhere to hide the bbq behind.  Only ever used them once for privicy...

Bolan

Quote: Originally posted by welshjohn on 08/8/2008

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Quote: Originally posted by TraceyD on 08/8/2008

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Am I missing something here?  Have windbreaks suddenly become 10 foot high, or are people shrinking?  Yes, we use windbreaks, mainly to avert the dogs eyes from other passing dogs and to give him some shade, but also to block the wind strangely enough.  We usually make a corner and use that for the bbq.  I don't consider us to be antisocial and we have made some very nice neighbours during our time camping, the windbreaks have never stopped us.  Are you saying that people who have fences between their houses (most of us) don't talk to our neighbours because of them? Our windbreaks are approximately the same height as our back garden fence at home.

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Yes you are missing something, I don't like the practice of erecting windbreaks to "mark territory", they are indeed extremely useful in making a shelter from the wind hence they're called windbreaks. I feel that such practice as using them as a boundry goes against the spirit of camping, you know, meeting people, enjoying the vistas of the open countryside. If you want to be penned in you might as well pitch your tent in your back garden!! I'm not saying that windbreaks are antisocial or that because of boundries you don't talk to your neighbours, I'm saying that physical boundries are at odds with what I consider to be camping good practice.

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Different strokes for different folks John my friend. If you don't like it tough! For a lot of people camping is a cheap way off taking their families off on holiday and if they don't wish to share there area with everybody and anybody then why should they? They've paid for their holiday and can enjoy it in whatever way they like, there are no hard and fast rules as far as I know as what is acceptable camping practice.

If it keeps miserable buggers like you out then all the better!

Quote: Originally posted by averagejoe on 10/8/2008

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Quote: Originally posted by welshjohn on 08/8/2008

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Quote: Originally posted by TraceyD on 08/8/2008

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Am I missing something here?  Have windbreaks suddenly become 10 foot high, or are people shrinking?  Yes, we use windbreaks, mainly to avert the dogs eyes from other passing dogs and to give him some shade, but also to block the wind strangely enough.  We usually make a corner and use that for the bbq.  I don't consider us to be antisocial and we have made some very nice neighbours during our time camping, the windbreaks have never stopped us.  Are you saying that people who have fences between their houses (most of us) don't talk to our neighbours because of them? Our windbreaks are approximately the same height as our back garden fence at home.

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Yes you are missing something, I don't like the practice of erecting windbreaks to "mark territory", they are indeed extremely useful in making a shelter from the wind hence they're called windbreaks. I feel that such practice as using them as a boundry goes against the spirit of camping, you know, meeting people, enjoying the vistas of the open countryside. If you want to be penned in you might as well pitch your tent in your back garden!! I'm not saying that windbreaks are antisocial or that because of boundries you don't talk to your neighbours, I'm saying that physical boundries are at odds with what I consider to be camping good practice.

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Different strokes for different folks John my friend. If you don't like it tough! For a lot of people camping is a cheap way off taking their families off on holiday and if they don't wish to share there area with everybody and anybody then why should they? They've paid for their holiday and can enjoy it in whatever way they like, there are no hard and fast rules as far as I know as what is acceptable camping practice.

 

If it keeps miserable buggers like you out then all the better!

Post last edited on 10/08/2008 20:34:01

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Oh dear, oh dear. I always find that name calling is normally the first refuge of the feeble minded, as I tell my kids, it's best to keep unkind words to yourself.

I'm hardly a "miserable bugger" Joe, I'm purely expressing my feelings as to why people would physically enforce the boundry of their pitch by excessive use of windbreaks, as in my opinion it's at odds with what my percieved notion of what camping is, the enjoyment of the open countryside. Obviously I knew some would agree with me and others would have a contrary opinion, which is what their perfectly entitled to, and through an exchange of views I would learn and understand why some people do as they do. But however I'd assumed that we'd be able to have a discussion without resorting to name calling, which usually speaks volumes about the person calling the names. There's a certain sadness about that.

What I don't understand on this forum is certain people's obsession with other people's style of camping.  Surely camping is just what you make it, it's not regimental, if it were, i for one would not enjoy it, that's why I avoid the C & CC sites.  As long as another person's idea of camping does not infringe on my enjoyment, ie overly loud music, late night antics, etc then each to their own.  I've seen threads on here about people who take excessive amounts of equipment, people who don't approve of others taking tv's, laptops, dvd players, etc, well surely that's up to them, good luck to them if that is what makes them happy!

Live and let live!! (Behind your windbreak or not)

Quote: Originally posted by TraceyD on 10/8/2008

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What I don't understand on this forum is certain people's obsession with other people's style of camping.  Surely camping is just what you make it, it's not regimental, if it were, i for one would not enjoy it, that's why I avoid the C & CC sites.  As long as another person's idea of camping does not infringe on my enjoyment, ie overly loud music, late night antics, etc then each to their own.  I've seen threads on here about people who take excessive amounts of equipment, people who don't approve of others taking tv's, laptops, dvd players, etc, well surely that's up to them, good luck to them if that is what makes them happy!

Live and let live!! (Behind your windbreak or not)

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I think that says it all Tracy

Quote: Originally posted by winhill on 10/8/2008

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Quote: Originally posted by romany on 09/8/2008

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Quote: Originally posted by Bernie47 on 08/8/2008

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Many people consider excessive windbreaks to be anti-social and I tend to agree.

I can understand erecting a windbreak around your porch for cooking purposes etc, but why mark off your territory?  If people want total privacy then in my opinion they should ask themselves whether camping is really for them.

 

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 I take exception to if I wish to utilise the whole of the pitch I have paid for and put wind breaks all around then I have every right to do so

I think that's the w**ker alert the OP refers to.

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Ahh another personal attacker with out any obvious point to make about the subject, what a shame

Well said Tracey.

People may have very good, very personal reasons for wanting a bit of privacy, and not wanting to socialise more than a polite good morning to others on site.

Oh dear, I don't like it when it gets all uppity like this - calm down, calm down!

In fact, we're probably all agreed -

There are many good uses for windbreaks -

• protecting your cooking equipment - fair enough (heath and safety)
• keeping all your buckets, rackets etc all in one place - fair enough (nice & tidy)
• stopping kids running through your pitch (quite fair enough!)
• marking off the pitch you've paid for (fair enough)
• a little privacy - we all have different views on how much privacy we need - we're all different - makes life interesting (fair enough)

However, I think we'd probably agree that where the use of windbreaks becomes a little unfair is when it encroaches on other people's enjoyment eg sectioning off part of a communal area ie not part of your pitch for your own personal use with 6 foot windbreaks so that no one else can enjoy it.  We have seen this!

Time to close as degenerating into a slanging match.

Cheers  Ratty