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15/8/2008 at 11:14am
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Hi all
Well we really are having a wet summer this year, and pegging our tents down safely no mater what pegs we decide to use is not that good, but the type of ground will decide if your tent will stay up at present rather than the pegs sandy and peaty soils that are at the base of slopes or on very flat sites that have been deeply saturated over the last couple of months are the ones that we should take care with. this type of ground is so soft you can dig your fingers into it and scoop out an handful
If we pitch a tent on this type of ground the chances of it standing up to high winds is in my opinion nil.
If you can push the peg you intend to use all the way in with your hand then I would change to a longer peg and if this pulls over with a gentle pull on an angled guy rope I would not pitch my tent there.
Please in this weather, test the ground on your chosen or given pitch before you start.
The campers from the old school know this, but if you are new to pitching a tent there is so many other things to remember, this may not cross your mind.
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15/8/2008 at 11:23am
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rex.. see my question in the modified delta peg thread .. please :)



15/8/2008 at 11:43am
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Thanks for the tips Rex.

We've decided to give this weekend a miss - NI is to have horrendous weather all day tomorrow . (As is probably the rest of the UK!) But these are things for us to bear in mind if we get out next weekend as the ground will undoubtedly still be very wet.



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Quote: Originally posted by sonja.p on 15/8/2008

rex.. see my question in the modified delta peg thread .. please :)

Hi sonja.
Difficult to say why, D/pegs will not pull out of ground firm enough to stop it pulling out the earth around it.
If you say it was a wet area that the single D/peg was in, it is possible it pulled through the ground to come out. this is unusual though as the tent usually pulls in gusts and does not pull long enough to pull the D/peg through the ground. were a normal peg it the same situation, after been pulled by the tent a few times will loosen and topple out.
I think Rob is still working on a sand and mud anchor, is prototype really did work well I have got one I tested and I have used it at camp a couple of times when a guy rope needed to be held in soft ground.
All the best
Rex.
Just a thought loose gravely soil would not hold any peg for long.



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15/8/2008 at 12:05pm
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i think it must have worked loose, with the wind putting the strain in different directions. Just before it came out i saw it was sticking up out of the ground and i was going to hammer it back in .. and then i got side tracked until the tent tried to cave in on me! It was lucky i was standing by the pole when it happened.!

if you look at the pics of the wind breaker pole you can see how soft the ground was.  The mud had formed a perfect 'sleeve' but i was just too late to get the picture.

 

or maybe i didn't have it at the proper angle in the first instance. It was difficult to work out the vertical 



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15/8/2008 at 12:18pm
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I used plastic pegs earlier this week, ground was very wet and I was surprised by the force needed to get them out again.  Will use these in future.

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Quote: Originally posted by DaveP65 on 15/8/2008I used plastic pegs earlier this week, ground was very wet and I was surprised by the force needed to get them out again.  Will use these in future.
Hi dave.
As I said Dave, its the type of ground and were the pitch is this weather.
Plastic pegs especially the 9" and 12" are good pegs I use the also. but are not as good as Delta pegs for the guys, I have tested them against each other.
and the trouble with long plastic pegs so many gets bent and ruined in the process of getting them in past stones
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15/8/2008 at 2:49pm
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In wet, soggy conditions it's best to use long, tapered wooden pegs (20" ~ 30" at least)... The wood sucks up a lot of the moist around it, giving it a more firm hold on the ground around it. The more pegs you use, the better the grip of the tent to the ground in higher winds. If there aren't enough guylines on the tent, you can improvise with the cling-ons.



Release their grip with a firm but gentle tap lateral towards and against the pulling direction, then pull out. Because of it being tapered, this should work.

Just to be clear, using wooden pegs on a field better suitable to play waterpolo will not work. But in other cases where you need to peg down on a wet field, wood is the better option.


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Hi again.
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Hi again.
I think freebird as said it all, Ash is the recommended hard wood for pegs, a sharp knife and some elastoplast
But seriously it really is difficult to peg a tent down safely in very wet ground. Just recently I have removed my bulky wood pegs from my peg container because I thought the Hy duty 12" plastic pegs would replace them but I think I will put six back just in case.
Thank you for reminding me freebird
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