Home

   Log in or Register



Insurance Quotes
forums Campsite Search Comp Directory tips virtual brochure Profile
Tent and Awning Reviews Competitions Caravans and Motorhomes For Sale Shopping Diary Contact Us

Advertisement

Message Forums

Welcome Guest Register Login Search The Forum Posts Since Last Visit
 Reception - All Forums
  Camping under canvas
Share   Post on X / Twitter  Share on Facebook  Email  Printer Friendly Version Print
Subject Topic: Almost ready to go - one last question... Post Reply Post New Topic
15/8/2008 at 9:33pm
 Location: Sheffield
 Outfit: Coleman McKenzie X8
View bladesfan's Profile View Profile   Reply to bladesfan Reply   Quote bladesfan Quote  
Joined: 17/6/2008

Standard Member
Standard Member

Forum Posts:   29

Site Reviews Total: 1
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

Well I've managed to finally load up the car in advance of tomorrow's trip.  Me and my son (aged 9) had so much fun trying to squish everything in the car that we nearly needed to use the luggable loo.  We're setting off about 6.30ish to drive but until then the car is outside fully loaded (hope there are no car thieves knocking about tonight).

I have a question which is more motoring that camping really...  Could I get stopped by the police for the fact that I cannot see a thing through the rear view mirror?

The car is really stuffed up to the ceiling so there's no visability whatsoever and I'm going to have to rely on my wing mirrors. 

This is our first trip, but if the kids enjoy it and we want to go again, I'll be looking at getting a trailer for next year.



15/8/2008 at 9:42pm
 Location: Dorset
 Outfit: Lots.mainly Cabanons!
View PigletandTigger's Profile View Profile   Reply to PigletandTigger Reply   Quote PigletandTigger Quote  
Joined: 20/5/2004

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   7016

Site Reviews Total: 1
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

No, AFAIK you don't have to have vision out of your rear view mirror - vans don't and we don't with our huge trailer on the back.

The sensible question is how well things are secured, if you get shunted at 60 miles an hour even something quite small and light will get shuttled into the back of your heads with some speed so hopefully you've got a dog guard or something similar holding your kit in place?

-------------
Piglet


15/8/2008 at 9:43pm
 Location: Warrington cheshire.
 Outfit: vango diablo 600
View maxylou's Profile View Profile   Reply to maxylou Reply   Quote maxylou Quote  
Joined: 28/8/2006

Silver Member
Silver Member

Forum Posts:   114

Site Reviews Total: 2
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

 

Hi,

Enjoy your first  camping holiday, i travel the same with my car filled to the celing, the way i see it vans can only use their wing mirrors, so should not be a problem.

 

take care, make sure you let the forum know how you got on

Max xx

 

 



15/8/2008 at 9:50pm
 Location: Cheshire
 Outfit: Coleman Evolva
View HoneyC's Profile View Profile   Reply to HoneyC Reply   Quote HoneyC Quote  
Joined: 09/8/2008

Standard Member
Standard Member

Forum Posts:   60
Tent Reviews:   1

Site Reviews Total: 0
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

You won't get stopped because you can't see out of the rear view mirror. Many small vans have enclosed cargo spaces so have the same visibilty you will have.

Only other concerns would be that these is nothing that can fly around in the event of a collision and you will have to REALLY use your external mirrors like you have not done before.

Tomorrow is our first camping trip  but just for one night so that we can make fools of ourselves but learn really quickly. I managed to pack the car without restricting the view out of the rear but as I say we're only going for one night. Will have a roofbox after that.

The car is hire car whilst mine is in for repair. We were hit in the rear about two weeks ago at around 40 MPH so my advise is clearly based on that.

Have a great holiday.

 



15/8/2008 at 9:50pm
 Location: nottingham
 Outfit: Grand Canyon 8 Pennine Fiesta
View corpogreen's Profile View Profile   Reply to corpogreen Reply   Quote corpogreen Quote  
Joined: 18/3/2007

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   1666

Site Reviews Total: 2
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

As long as you have 2 wing mirrors you aren't breaking the law,(A car needs 2 usable  mirrors to pass it's MOT). but you could be if you are overweight( not you personally,the car) lol



-------------
      Corpogreen esq
          dead horse
               and
       donkey buyer
    
      
      


Advertisement



15/8/2008 at 9:50pm
 Location: Sheffield
 Outfit: Coleman McKenzie X8
View bladesfan's Profile View Profile   Reply to bladesfan Reply   Quote bladesfan Quote  
Joined: 17/6/2008

Standard Member
Standard Member

Forum Posts:   29

Site Reviews Total: 1
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

Thanks for the replies, it's put my mind at rest.

I haven't got a dog guard or net or anything ,but I did put all the soft things - sleeping bags, airbeds, the tent, etc at the front and all the smaller/harder things at the back so if anything happened there shouldn't be too much flying about.  Don't think there's much space for anything to move anyway as it's so jammed in.

We'll just have to remember not to buy too many souvenirs while we're away.

I'll post a message saying how we went on and what we think of the tent when I get back. 



15/8/2008 at 10:16pm
 Location: chesterfield
 Outfit: Elddis chatsworth 550 Shogun warrior
View amaboverd's Profile View Profile   Reply to amaboverd Reply   Quote amaboverd Quote  
Joined: 14/8/2007

Platinum Member
Platinum Member

Forum Posts:   542
Tent Reviews:   1

Site Reviews Total: 7
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

have a gr8 time .you will be fine after all your a blades fan ,"comon"


15/8/2008 at 10:39pm
 Location: Teesside
 Outfit: Challenger Sport 524 + Volvo V90 D5
View Hairywol's Profile View Profile   Reply to Hairywol Reply   Quote Hairywol Quote  
Joined: 02/6/2005

Platinum Member
Platinum Member

Forum Posts:   1430
Tent Reviews:   6

Site Reviews Total: 29
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

Like most of the others, don't like to use trailers (slows me down) or roofboxes (mpg), so pack the indide to the roof.

Pack any thing solid and heavy low down behind the seats, then they'll be braced in a crash. But bear in mind that in a high-speed front-ender, even a loaf of bread could be fatal if it shoots forward with enough momentum.



15/8/2008 at 11:44pm
 Location: South Leicestershire
 Outfit: Baily Pageant
View ANNnRICK41's Profile View Profile   Reply to ANNnRICK41 Reply   Quote ANNnRICK41 Quote  
Joined: 07/8/2008

Standard Member
Standard Member

Forum Posts:   46

Site Reviews Total: 9
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

Hope you have a great time .. 

Our granddaugter is being bought up a blades fan .. not her fault

Up the baggies ..

Ann & Rick



-------------
The sun has got his hat on hip hip hip horay...


16/8/2008 at 10:08pm
 Location: South London
 Outfit: Cabanon Aruba Force 10 Crux Storm
View Rik Brooks's Profile View Profile   Reply to Rik Brooks Reply   Quote Rik Brooks Quote  
Joined: 09/6/2004

Platinum Member
Platinum Member

Forum Posts:   629

Site Reviews Total: 0
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

I use an estate car and always leave the rear seats up. This is partly so that I can put stuff in the rear seat footwells but also because the back seat acts as a "baffle" to stop the load moving around. Could make a small difference in a shunt.

Take care.

R


Advertisement



17/8/2008 at 7:55am
 Location: Dorset
 Outfit: Lots.mainly Cabanons!
View PigletandTigger's Profile View Profile   Reply to PigletandTigger Reply   Quote PigletandTigger Quote  
Joined: 20/5/2004

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   7016

Site Reviews Total: 1
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

I've been thinking about this and one solution might be a cargo net, we bought a cheap elasticated one from Screwfix Direct to keep things anchored in the trailer but it might be adaptable to go over a load in the back of the car.

The other consideration if you're dropping the backseats or packing stuff onto the backseats is that most insurers exclude cover where items aren't locked in a boot/hatchback or a glovebox. So if things are in the body of the car on show are not usually covered.

-------------
Piglet


17/8/2008 at 11:53am
 Location: None Entered
 Outfit: Assorted Tents
View stumpjumper's Profile View Profile   Reply to stumpjumper Reply   Quote stumpjumper Quote  
Joined: 27/6/2004

Platinum Member
Platinum Member

Forum Posts:   540
Tent Reviews:   5

Site Reviews Total: 9
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

You need to make sure the car is not overladen as the police can impound your car if it is! You'll be able to see if this is the case if the car is very low down on it's rear suspension. It's scary how many families you see on the motorway with severely overladen cars, it's dangerous as your suspension and brakes are only designed to take a specified maximum weight (you'll find this in your car's handbook).

As far as the visibility goes it's not a legal requirement to be able to see out of the back.

-------------
Current tents in use: 5m Bell, Obelink Palamos 6, Vango Tornado 300 Vango Force 10 Mk3, Hypercamp Eldorado & Orange Raclet


17/8/2008 at 1:28pm
 Location: Oxford
 Outfit: (New) HiGear Gobi 4 Tent
View campz's Profile View Profile   Reply to campz Reply   Quote campz Quote  
Joined: 16/6/2006

Standard Member
Standard Member

Forum Posts:   62

Site Reviews Total: 3
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0

Overloading is indeed the main thing to worry about, not from the perspective of the brakes as a typical car brakes will stop a car towing a 1 ton trailer. But more for the fact that the car is legally dangerous if it is overloaded. You will especially find with a front wheel drive car that it is quite uncontrollable.

As long as most of the stuff is bulk such as sleeping bags etc rather than wight such as gas cylinders etc then you should be OK. Just look at the car and see if it looks weighed down at the back and does it bounce on the suspension if you push hard down on the boot?

If it doesn't bounce you are all the way down on to the bushes and that is overloaded for sure.



In order to post a reply you will need to register, or if already registered please log in here

Prev       Next
Quick Links - All Forums - Camping under canvas - Top of Page

Printer Friendly Version Printable version      Share   Post on X / Twitter  Share on Facebook  Email


Latest News, Discounts and Competitions  see all...














5744 Visitors online !

Free UKCampsite.co.uk Window Sticker  -  Recommend to Friend  -  Add a Missing Campsite

[Message Forums]  [Caravan Sites & Camping]  [Company Listings]  [Features / Advice]  [Virtual Brochure]  [Shop!]
[Reception]  [Competitions]  [Caravans & Motorhomes For Sale]  [Event Diary]  [Contact Us]  [Tent Reviews



Please note we are not responsible for the content of external sites & any reviews represent the author's personal view only. Please report any error here. You may view our privacy and cookie policy and terms and conditions here. All copyrights & other intellectual property rights in the design and content of this web site are reserved to the UKCampsite.co.uk © 1999 - 2024


Advertisement



Advertisement



Advertisement