I've just read a thread where a camper throws away a 6mx8m blue tarp every trip 'cos it's used as a footprint.
Before we got our footprint groundsheet we used to put down plastic dustsheet (on a roll from B&Q) & throw it away, but a blue tarp every trip doesnt sound very eco-friendly.
With out footprint tarp, we fold it dirty side in, then there's no mud showing. At home it's over the washing line & a quick hose down.
Any views on what is and what is not acceptable as a disposable item? As campers (and countryside lovers presumably), should we be leading the way?
I used a huge blue tarp doubled up under my bedroom inner during my recent trip and left the site in a howling gale, and getting it back to the size it was before I unpacked it turned out to be impossible for a solo camper.... so I folded it up as best I could and put it in the boot on top of everything else.
By the time I reached my half way rest break, I was so paranoid about what that tarp would do if my boot lid popped open and the wind caught it, I shifted it so there were heavy things on top of it and even tied a cord from inside the boot lid to my towbar - doubtless risking drawing attention to myself.
As it happens, due to the rush I was in, I was obliged to leave behind an unused Aldi Barbecue and several buckets too - beside the bins in the hope someone found a use for them ...
I've sometimes left stuff we haven't used - BBQ charcoal mainly - near to bins but obviously a freebie for anyone who wants them. I bet your BBQ & buckets soon found a new home.
I think I must be pretty green then. I have a footprint groundsheet. I just stayed on a site with compost toilets (a peg on the nose came in handy!) so we didn't even add to the local sewerage system. All plastic bottles and cardboard we took were put in the recycling bins. We took almost everything home that we hadn't used and we cooked or eat everything we took. My toilet with the chemical in was only emptied once during our 3 days stay as it wasn't used that much.
I was amazed by the stuff that other campers had thrown out though. A gazebo, an awning and a tent that clearly hadn't been up to the job. I do think that large stuff like that should be taken home by the owners, not just dumped on the site.
I was also pleased to note that there was no damage to my little patch of grass where our tent had been. Just wish I could get there by some other method than a car!
Quote: Originally posted by neelie on 21/8/2008
. I just stayed on a site with compost toilets
were you at eweleaze?
i am afraid we left way to much rubbish behind at the end of our stay there :(
i recycled all my 'beverage' bottles and i hope our cheap washing up bowls ended up being re-used but it did strike me that our eco credentials didn't match those of the site, by a long way!
Not Ewelease but Stubcroft Farm near Chichester.
Mind you I think they should reduce the amount of campers or increase the amount of toilets. They may spout off about being green but when they see a warmish weekend coming up the folding stuff is just too tempting for them.
Quote: Originally posted by neelie on 21/8/2008
Stubcroft Farm near Chichester.
that is very near us. I look after my grandson a couple of days a week and it could be fun to go camping when it isn't so crowded and if the loos are too bad we can pop home :) Do you think the reviews are about right?
I cannot fault the green credentials of Eweleaze Farm in Dorset and the eco loos this year were superb.
Some campers flouted the no car philosophy so they obviously didn't 'get' it but generally people were happy to trek to the water point and the woodpile, despite the wind the rain and the slope! Fantastic for children.
I find that I am less inclinded to recycle things like cans and bottle when camping. I do appreciate that sites mightn'd have room for recycling points, but perhaps they could put up notices as to the whereabout of the local recyling centres, then at least our bottles and cans could go. At home we compost greenstuff, and I take cardboard and plastics to the tip once a week when I take the kids swimming, as they are near each other.
Well, perhaps the tarps and the family tent did get recycled in the end...I'm always fishing perfectly good camping equipment out of campsite dustbins. I've not bought guylines, sliders or groundsheets in years because I get them of "trashed" tents. Even pole sections on occassions...if the tent is similar to one of mine. I've got a fishing rod, BBQ stand and a couple of extra "guest" seats too, though these last I did put back a few days later when our guests had gone.
Have to say though that I do leave items beside campsite dustbins that I don't want to take home, if I think another camper can make use of them. This normally happens at the end of our long French trip, to make room for the homeward repacking. This year I left four rather grimey camping chairs (soon snaffled by the group of four guys camping from their motorbikes, though there was much debate about who got the pink chair), two pairs of rollerblades my kids were about to grow out of and a barbecue. In the past I've left a travel cot and high chair too. All these items seemed to vanish pretty quickly! Some French campsites have a specific area next to all the recycling bins for this sort of freebie swap stuff. Good idea.
We went to Glyn Y Mul farm recently for a couple of nice days. It's not connected to the sewers or the water mains but I was told it uses reed beds for waste water, rainwater for the toilets, washbasins, showers etc and uses a borehole and filter system for drinking water. Interesting stuff I think. Ian, the owner, seemed to take the recycling very seriously, checking the general waste bins for rogue cans, bottles etc and putting them in their correct bins before emptying them. Even the contents of a part full chip bag was saved "for the chickens" .
------------- ---Phil---
"I distrust camels, and anyone else who can go a week without a drink."
Hi Phil, We've also stayed at Glyn Y Mul and Ian absolutely cannot bear any waste at all! I've caught him fishing out half a baguette etc. The shower & loos were all built from recycled units as you can tell! Does he still have the collection of old tractors etc? I have no idea what he plans to use them for! A very quirky site and he is very keen on peace & quiet for all, plus will ban cars when the ground needs to be protected and refuses to pack loads of people in, good luck to him!
------------- Angie ~~
~ If you see someone without a smile give them one of yours ~
I didn't notice any tractors but I did notice all these really old fuel pumps around the barn area. Like you said, a quirky site, especially with the flock of tame ducks waddling around periodically, hoping to get fed by the campers .
------------- ---Phil---
"I distrust camels, and anyone else who can go a week without a drink."