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Subject Topic: Getting wet inside a Vermont L Post Reply Post New Topic
25/8/2008 at 11:35pm
 Location: Oxfordshire
 Outfit: Outwell NL Vermont L Nevada XL.
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We got pretty wet inside our Vermont L this weekend and I need a bit of advice to (hopefully) prevent a repeat performance!

During persistent rain it looked like water was seeping through the tent roof and forming drips on the 'ceiling'. Gusts of wind shaking the tent turned the drips into rain inside the tent! It was a pretty grim experience I can tell you; in some places there were puddles of water on the carpet and I recon we mopped up almost half a washing-up bowl's worth of water from inside the tent the following morning.

Earlier in the week we were camping out in quite windy conditions, could this have degraded the tent's waterproofing or is polyester naturally water repellant? I noticed this morning there were 'wet' patches on the top of the tent. By that I mean patches where the material has absorbed the water sat on top of the tent and it was wet to the touch from inside.

Outwell mention maintaining the seams on this tent but not the overall fabric (as far as I can tell). The tent is about 11 months old and I'd guess has had 25 days/nights use. Am I supposed to douse the whole thing with something like Fabisil from time to time to keep it waterproof?



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26/8/2008 at 12:03am
 Location: Canol Cymru
 Outfit: chinos and a polo shirt
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are you sure it was leaking? from what you describe it sounds like condensation to me

go outside on a cold day and blow into a plastic bag and see how much condensation one person can make muliply this by the number of people in the tent and in the morning it is raining inside the tent

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26/8/2008 at 12:25am
 Location: Oxfordshire
 Outfit: Outwell NL Vermont L Nevada XL.
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I'm always blaming water in the tent on condensation but my family are growing tired of hearing it from me, last weekend took the biscuit!

You make a fair point though, thanks. After camping in Vermonts occasionally over the past year, we've yet to camp in rainy conditions and have a tent that's dry inside the day after rain but I can live with that. Last weekend was nothing like we've experienced before, not even close!

Looks like I need to 'borrow' the village green and do a test run with the watering can!



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26/8/2008 at 12:54am
 Location: Teesside
 Outfit: Challenger Sport 524 + Volvo V90 D5
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Can't think it was the fabric - 25 days is nothing for this tent, even in sunlight (some hope!).

Faults with Outwell and other makes of tent are almost always poor construction i.e. the seams.

Could be condensation, but don't suffer this in my own Vermont M. Can I ask, how many of you where there, & did you keep all ventilation vents open? It's particularly important to do this in a tent with SIG.



26/8/2008 at 7:49am
 Location: Canol Cymru
 Outfit: chinos and a polo shirt
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the thing with condensation is that you are more likley to experience it when it is cold and damp outside

if the air inside your tent is warmer than the air outside the tent then when the warm air from breathing hits the cold fabric of the tent it will condense and form water droplets

also do you use any form of heat in the tent Ior do you cook or boil water inside the tent? as both of these will contribute towards condensation



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26/8/2008 at 7:49am
 Location: Canol Cymru
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26/8/2008 at 9:16am
 Location: None Entered
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Sounds like a classic condensation problem.


30/8/2008 at 11:14am
 Location: None Entered
 Outfit: Outwell Wolf Lake 7
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Take a look at the reviews for the Vermont... Lots of mentions of leaky 2007 models - apparently a batch problem. Probably best to read the reviews and draw your own conclusion. The good news is that it seems Outwell and retailers seem quite happy to deal with the situation.


30/8/2008 at 1:00pm
 Location: The Love Shack
 Outfit:  BearLake 6 and a hot water bottle.
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Always keep the tent well ventilated,even at night.I know its tempting to shut everything up especially when its raining but you will be amazed at the body heat people give off during the night.Also think about when you're cooking and boiling water etc.

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30/8/2008 at 1:37pm
 Location: Wet and windy Britain.
 Outfit: Six tents + Vango and Quechua tarps
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I wouldn't automatically assume that it is mere condensation. There was a very similar thread on here not so long ago where water had been seeping through the tent fabric of an Outwell. I can't remember the exact details, but when it was returned to the shop, the owner was told that there had been other reports of this with Outwells, although (typically) the manufacturer was refusing to admit to a problem. It was something to do with a quality fault where the fabric had not been given its PU coating.

I would put it back up in the rain, stay out, keep it well ventilated and then inspect it after a few hours.

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30/8/2008 at 11:08pm
 Location: North Yorkshire
 Outfit: Khyam Espace
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We noticed a slightly similar problem on our outwell nevada, but not nearly so bad. After it had rained some patches of material were completely soaked through while most areas were dry. It seemed to be very patchy, and on the material as well as a few seams. It wasn't too bad - only in a few areas - but we are pretty sure it was rain water coming through rahter than condensation. Also noticed it on the side extension - some dry and some very wet areas on the material.

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