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24/9/2008 at 1:15pm
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Hi Nursie,I fully agree with your comments about dogs.We have always taken our dog with us,not to save on kennel fees but because he is part of our family and loves the outdoors as much as we do.Like you point out the main thing is that dog owners are responsible for their pets and always keep them on a lead and clean up after them(even on the dog walks provide by sites).I think some dog owners think because they are on the designated dog walks then there is no need to clear up their pets mess.

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Hi Sue
Can you see what this member is trying to do,Please Sue go read my post on the motercaravan forum the quote that I have a problem with dogs is a figment of the members imagination
as I clearly said to her that it is good that campers can bring their pets,the nursie as been upset by a comment about rule breaking and as we all know if the cap fits campers need to were it.
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Hi all
The subject under discussion on this thread is who should be responsible for informing members that the pitch they have booked is unusable due to flood or mud.
Please let us all stick to the subject
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24/9/2008 at 1:40pm
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I tend to disagree with Rex on general principles of site organisation. I think that, when possible, all of tents / motorhomes / caravans should be integrated with no distinction - though that can obviously be difficult with hard / grass standings. Having said that, I'm sure in the present age it's possible to apply a type of standing to a pitch which can be used equally well by all units - plastic honeycomb for instance ?

The one current practice which really annoys me is the placing of tents farthest from the toilet block. The one group which almost completely rely on using the toilet block almost always are placed farthest away - and those that don't rely on it, are placed right beside it. This applies as much to commercial sites as club sites.



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24/9/2008 at 1:51pm
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QUOTE FROM REX:

Hi again Nursie
There you go again You are trying your damndest to instigate trouble, you will not succeed and please will you stick to the subject of this post. You have now had your say Good,
By all means stay and join us but stick to the subject under discussion, if you have anything useful to say on this subject I am sure the dedicated and experienced campers on this forum would be please to hear your opinion on tents, I gave you my thoughts on Moterhomes not the people who use them what is your opinion on tents
what do you as a moterhome camper think about the senior form of camping the tent.
You brought the subject of urine up on the moterhome forum saying that tent campers urinate outside their tents while you have breakfast it is on the forum in I said in my opinion that it was good that the dog owners brought their pets I also said club rules state that dogs should be kept on a short lead and moved of the site to deficate and that I thought that unine which is 99% passed by pet dog and the odd camper from all units
would do no harm.
There your untrue instigation's answers in full now please stop trying to instigate trouble between unit type I accept the present situation 100% as there is nothing but segregation can change that.
Have a nice day nursie
Regards
Rex.

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I have no problem with tents at all & as for the urinating reference that was not said how you have taken it & it was only said in response to your post claiming that a lot if not most motorhomers empty their waste tanks on their pitches & are lazy. you came into the motorhome forum to ask us to pass on your message of disapproval to our colleagues & some motorhome owners took offence at your insinuations. i just said in response to your post that i have seen campers urinate outside their tents in the past but of course that doesnt make me think all tent owners do this though & i dont assume the behaviour of the odd few tent owners is typical of them all? i said that in my eyes urinating isnt nice to see & you defended it saying it wasnt harmful. This was the only reason why i referred to folks urinating & it was just to prove a point & to ask why what you witnessed when you saw that motorhome dumping their waste made you assume that all motorhome owners ignorantly empty their waste tanks anywhere they please? we are motorhome owners & we would never dream of dumping our waste tank anywhere other than the proper place & so it offended me too. if your fellow tent posters would like to read the thread that you started in the motorhome section i think they will see who the instigator was & hopefully they will draw their own conclusions as to whether or not you were being personal about motorhome users? as for my opinions of tents, well i havent given it much thought as its never been an issue of mine but to answer your question i think that they are a lovely way for people to enjoy outdoor life & i can see why those that enjoy the back to nature lifestyle would love them & some of the set ups i have seen during our travels have been pretty impressive. we like to come & go as we please & dont like the idea of having to set up & take down in all weather but i still can see the appeal of a tent though. i think we all have our preferences & there are units to suit everyones tastes & budgets & i am just happy to let people live their lives the way that they enjoy best & get joy from seeing others enjoying their lives. i hope that ansers your question? Nursie 





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24/9/2008 at 1:58pm
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Quote: Originally posted by rexgrant on 24/9/2008
Hi all
The subject under discussion on this thread is who should be responsible for informing members that the pitch they have booked is unusable due to flood or mud.
Please let us all stick to the subject
Rex.

 Hear, hear!

I'm not a club member and I haven't been able to fathom from this thread whether sites are currently obligated to contact campers regarding site conditions or not BUT maybe it's more difficult for sites (in general) to contact people because more people book in advance now than ever before. I don't believe it should be the responsibility of the site to contact campers, although if they have the resources and do contact you, that's obviously a bonus, but then we're back to square one and some campers would complain about sites which are unable (for whatever reason) to contact them. As long as the sites are honest and can give you a true picture of the status of the site at the time that you contact them, surely that gives you enough information to decide whether to change your plans.



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Hi SJ
As you say it is difficult to arrive at a solution especially for the private sector.
Should the Pitch be saturated and muddy and in all sense of the word unusable for the imminent future, a site as taken a deposit for a customer, should the site be responsible for the cancellation and return or bank the deposit for future use on their site. Or should the customer contact the site and ask the conditions if you do it this way and you decide to cancel because the pitch is saturated and muddy then you will loose your deposit.
After all no tent camper wants and should not be expected to camp in mud or on a saturated pitch that will turn into mud within 48 hours.
At least with the CAC Club if you do contact them and are given a true report on your prospective pitch if you cancel you do not loose you deposit, But all members of the club should be made aware of this so they can contact the site two or three days before so alternative sites can be found and booked.Flash floods are not a problem, but tent should never be put on a pitch that floods, and saturated ground will not dry sufficient in three days to accept a tent even on a well drained pitch that is the reason it is saturated so any person with knowledge of a site as no excuse for pitching a tent on an unsuitable pitch,as I was reminded today that we go camping to enjoy our holidays and not get swamped with mud and water.
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24/9/2008 at 2:42pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Nursie on 24/9/2008

QUOTE FROM REX:

Hi again Nursie
There you go again You are trying your damndest to instigate trouble, you will not succeed and please will you stick to the subject of this post. You have now had your say Good,
By all means stay and join us but stick to the subject under discussion, if you have anything useful to say on this subject I am sure the dedicated and experienced campers on this forum would be please to hear your opinion on tents, I gave you my thoughts on Moterhomes not the people who use them what is your opinion on tents
what do you as a moterhome camper think about the senior form of camping the tent.
You brought the subject of urine up on the moterhome forum saying that tent campers urinate outside their tents while you have breakfast it is on the forum in I said in my opinion that it was good that the dog owners brought their pets I also said club rules state that dogs should be kept on a short lead and moved of the site to deficate and that I thought that unine which is 99% passed by pet dog and the odd camper from all units
would do no harm.
There your untrue instigation's answers in full now please stop trying to instigate trouble between unit type I accept the present situation 100% as there is nothing but segregation can change that.
Have a nice day nursie
Regards
Rex.

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I have no problem with tents at all & as for the urinating reference that was not said how you have taken it & it was only said in response to your post claiming that a lot if not most motorhomers empty their waste tanks on their pitches & are lazy. you came into the motorhome forum to ask us to pass on your message of disapproval to our colleagues & some motorhome owners took offence at your insinuations. i just said in response to your post that i have seen campers urinate outside their tents in the past but of course that doesnt make me think all tent owners do this though & i dont assume the behaviour of the odd few tent owners is typical of them all? i said that in my eyes urinating isnt nice to see & you defended it saying it wasnt harmful. This was the only reason why i referred to folks urinating & it was just to prove a point & to ask why what you witnessed when you saw that motorhome dumping their waste made you assume that all motorhome owners ignorantly empty their waste tanks anywhere they please? we are motorhome owners & we would never dream of dumping our waste tank anywhere other than the proper place & so it offended me too. if your fellow tent posters would like to read the thread that you started in the motorhome section i think they will see who the instigator was & hopefully they will draw their own conclusions as to whether or not you were being personal about motorhome users? as for my opinions of tents, well i havent given it much thought as its never been an issue of mine but to answer your question i think that they are a lovely way for people to enjoy outdoor life & i can see why those that enjoy the back to nature lifestyle would love them & some of the set ups i have seen during our travels have been pretty impressive. we like to come & go as we please & dont like the idea of having to set up & take down in all weather but i still can see the appeal of a tent though. i think we all have our preferences & there are units to suit everyones tastes & budgets & i am just happy to let people live their lives the way that they enjoy best & get joy from seeing others enjoying their lives. i hope that ansers your question? Nursie 





Post last edited on 24/09/2008 14:07:05

All is well that ends well we are now back on subject.
Good by
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Quote: Originally posted by arthurdent on 24/9/2008

I tend to disagree with Rex on general principles of site organisation. I think that, when possible, all of tents / motorhomes / caravans should be integrated with no distinction - though that can obviously be difficult with hard / grass standings. Having said that, I'm sure in the present age it's possible to apply a type of standing to a pitch which can be used equally well by all units - plastic honeycomb for instance ?

The one current practice which really annoys me is the placing of tents farthest from the toilet block. The one group which almost completely rely on using the toilet block almost always are placed farthest away - and those that don't rely on it, are placed right beside it. This applies as much to commercial sites as club sites.



Hi Arthur
Have you ever been pitched between two 10ft high moterhomes ?? the only way you could have an EHU.
I assure you it is really bad news and ruins your camp/especially if you are disabled and can not walk like me and sit out side your tent for your enjoyment of the British country side. it becomes a pleasure to go of in your car but you may as well stay home to do that.
Regards
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24/9/2008 at 2:52pm
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You flirting with me Rex you little rascal ....  cos you keep on winking at me lol! I am a married woman u know?  Nursie


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Quote: Originally posted by Nursie on 24/9/2008
You flirting with me Rex you little rascal ....  cos you keep on winking at me lol! I am a married woman u know?  Nursie


Hi again Nursie.
I havent been accused of flirting for at least 50 years
All the best
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24/9/2008 at 3:28pm
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Quote: Originally posted by rexgrant on 11/9/2008

Quote: Originally posted by Fat Bum on 11/9/2008Maybe the C&CC should have a policy that they don't ring anyone at all if the site is flooded but leave it to the camper to ring them. After all we all hear weather forecasts and know if the conditions have been bad in an area and it would only take a few minutes to ring them a day or 2 before and check. If they have to ring everyone they are expecting, which could be, say 30 units (or even more), this could involve them having to make 50+ calls bearing in mind that a lot of people may not be in the first time they are rung, and this could take one person the best part of a day, and would cost them a fair bit in phone calls.



With this policy at least everyone would know where they stand - that they are responsible for checking the conditions themselves, and then they only have themselves to blame if they don't check and find the site unsuitable.


Hi FB
spot on, providing the club informs all members that this is a new rule so all will know and not expect to be informed.
Rex.

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Why on earth should it be written in the club rules?? Surely any camper with a modicum of common sense would ring the site themselves - not exactly rocket science is it??

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Hi tigermouse
At present the club should inform members of unserviceable pitches and cancellations. this is what members believe and plan their holiday accordingly, some managers inform members some don't,so members have arrived on site to find unsuitable pitches this is why the club as to inform both members and none members at the time of booking or in the rules, as you say it dose not take rocket science to work that out.So the responsibility is left to the member to check that their prospective pitch is serviceable
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Rex,Nursie and everyone else who has contributed to this thread,lets chill out and have a ............



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Hi sue
I think we have
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