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I`m not sure if its a size difference, can`t see it really, but we had a very stormy week in Wales in August, and our 600 stood up to it with no problems....and no delta pegs at that time either.

Were Vango not specific as to how they thought you`d pitched it wrong?

The first outing we had we had a saggy front door, having looked at pictures of orchys on websites, we adjusted where we were pitching the front guys and solved the problem. These pictures showed them in a different position to were they were on the pitching video.

Have you tried pitching the bedroom pod facing the prevailing wind? Ours was like this last summer by default, so, in theory it `slipstreams` the tent.

I`m a newbie to camping myself so am no expert but I can only reassure you and say we have had no problems and are delighted with the tent.

I`m sure if Rex reads this he will advise you to get some of the clips he recommends and some extra guys ( cannot remember what they are called off the top of my head ) either that or buy a cabanon frame tent!!!!!

Enjoy your trip

I`ve not seen a 500 in the flesh, but there can`t be that much difference. I think you were just unlucky.

I am thinking of getting some spare pole sections myself.....just in case a gust causes a snapped pole......I don`t think the vango tents are particularly suseptable to this, I think its fibreglass poles in general.

Rex`s clips are called `clingons` I believe

OMG what happened to the poles? They look like they melted and bent.........we had terrilbe gales in Pembrokeshire in August, and ours never even bowed in the wind.......what are those poles made of?

That`s c**p as I bet that tent cost bucks more than the Orchy..........now you`re making me nervous about mine

Make a nuisence  of yourself, then they won`t ignore you Troublesome people always get sorted quicker.

I`m far from any expert, but if it has the same poles as mine I cannot imagine they would be strong enough to support canvas, esp. when wet........it seems illogical to me they would do that.....do you think, as it was a sample tent it came with the wrong poles?......maybe if you could get Vango to replace with better poles it`s be okay.... then you could sell it if you`re still not in love.

Ideally they sould refund you, but I`m not sure they will with it being a sample.but I`m sure I`m waffling and you know all this.

What a shame,  like I say, we love our Orchy...but are considering a canvas purchase for cooler weather camping....shan`t buy yours though